Looking for Mangusta wheels....

Check with Dave Adler, he had a stock reconditioned set for sale a while back

He's Whiplash on this board

Thanks Dennis for the tip, I will look into it.

Mike S.

Hey Mike,

Not to hijack the thread, but what did your do swap that $24K Pantera you were selling for a Goose?

Julian..."what did your do swap" Huh?? lol!

Not in that exact order, since you asked. I did sell the Pantera, thanks, and I did acquire the Goose, but no, not swapped in the same deal.

you are welcome to see the goose anytime being in Reno! now back to finding Mangusta wheels....

Mike,

There are a few of us who are interested in some larger original style wheels. I'm thinking 17's in the original style, much the way the Pantera Campy clones have been done.

When things quieten down a bit (which I am expecting over the next few months), I plan to look further into this. I want a set of wheels that look great and can wear modern rubber. I still have my original alloy wheels and don't plan on selling them, just want some "extra shoes". Let me know if you might also be interested. Keep an eye on eBay as the 15's do come up every now & then.

Mark

Mark, absolutely I am open to the idea of a larger/same look custom wheel. My car is hardly original!, so I just want a more original look where the wheels are concerned. I do like the idea of the original 15's w/re-manufactured Michelin xwx's for a nice period correct look and ride? your opinion?

a 16" front with a 17" rear or 17" and 18" or 16" and 18"....definitely worth a debate!

keep me updated and meanwhile the search goes on...

fyi, I did make contact with a custom wheel builder and a one-off set is quite expensive, enough to deter me, but perhaps with a group purchase?? Didn't someone do this a few years ago? I have been chasing some old e-mail contacts that were referred to me..it is like detective work, kind of fun!

To everyone associated with these cool Detomaso auto's, thanks for always just jumping in to help when requested, and for giving opinions and suggestions that are never rude or condescending...I appreciate it! kind of a newbie here

PM "EvodIndustries" on this forum. He builds custom wheels:
http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/4250045562...290040775#8290040775

I'm sure he could give you guys a price for a set of custom Mangusta Campy Clones in a modern size.

He did, and I sure they are awesome, just a little $$ pricey for a one-off set...we need a large group and maybe the price comes down? Not even sure of that, just a guess, in the meantime, please keep the tips and ideas coming, something will pan out. Market is soft on all things 'collectible autos' perhaps someone wants to cash in now on a set taking up space????

Mike, What sort of cost rage were you getting? Did you inquire about having 5 or 10 sets made? I bet 5 would fly and 10 would be a reasonable demand. I have the original wheels and even a spare set of original XWX tires, but I just can't love the skinny tire look — especially with the silly inboard off-set. Might have looked great in 1966, but I like a wider wheel (at least a 10") and more outward off-set.

Thanks Mark, your experienced opinion is appreciated...I only inquired about one set and the price is really high...I would never spend $7K or higher for a set of wheels...I already have a kick ass set of 'custom' wheels on the car...only they don't look like the original Campy style.

It would be nice to have a custom set with offset and wheelwell clearance and ride height, etc..all perfected. And look like factory original Campy style...With you and me, we are up to two!

interesting to see what comes of this...

I just ordered a set of aftermarket wheels and tires for the Mangusta. I plan to keep the originals but upgrade to newer rubber. I ordered a set of Formula wheels from PI motorsport with a stock 4 bolt pattern. The bolt pattern is an unusual 106 mm. Front will be 8x18 and rear is 10x18. Front tire is 225/40/18 and rear is 285/40/18. Front backspacing is 3.5 inch, rear backspacing is 4 inch

FWIW, the DeTomaso factory in Italy still owns the molds used by Campagnolo to make all the wheels they ever sold. A dozen years back, one owner contacted the factory and had several sets of Vallelunga wheels remade- at enormous cost (originally made in the early '60s). But that was the ONLY way to get a set for that DeTomaso. If you're adamant about getting a set of OEM Mangusta wheels, call Steve Wilkinson who is the factory contact nowadays for ALL DeTomaso parts impoted to the U.S. It will NOT be cheaper than E-Bay, but they will be brand new.
Second point: cast magnesium age-hardens, so old wheels get harder and more brittle, even if never used and sitting quietly on a shelf. Home heat-treating can remove these stresses but it does destroy original paint.

Jack, EXCELLENT suggestion! I have spoken with Steve and requested that he pursue that - a 'NEW' cast set..have not heard back, this was a month or so ago.....Mike

Has anybody formed an opinion what an original front and an original rear Mangusta wheel would be worth? Has anybody learned of a sale in recent months?

A few years back, PI Motorsports prepared a set of 4-lug oversize wheels for the Fox Mangusta. I think they looked terrific with the satin grey center sections. I think they were in the area of $600 each +/-. Do you like this style for your Mangusta? I feel that the lower aspect tires in some ways spoil the look of the car and without lowering the car, leave too much open space above the tire. It is never a good idea to lower a 'Goose.

Dave, I have to agree that the grey Goose could really use more rubber at the rear, but the front wheel/opening ratio looks as perfect as I have ever seen on a Mangusta. That style of wheel looks very nice as well, especially with the body-match paint centers.

The real problem I guess is finding a tire that looks meaty enough. Personally, I would prefer my speedo be off a bit and have the car look "right". These cars seem set right with stock wheels but check out the tire size on the brochure car!

Mark

A wheel is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. I really wanted a replacement stock wheel to complete the Mangusta. I bid on ebay and I am not sure if there was truly another bidder on ebay or someone just pumping up the price. I finally paid $3,600 for a wheel that needed refinishing. It started off at $50 but just escalated from there. That must be a record for an original Mangusta wheel.

I appreciate your answer. I don't think you paid too much or too little. They are rare pieces of art. A customer of mine wanted some custom wire wheels made for a Rolls and the estimated cost was $3,500.00 per wheel. The rare Mangusta wheel should be as much or more. I wonder what a steering wheel would go for these days? By the way, was your wheel a front or rear? Thank you, Dave

if you know the Countach variants....the early 'Bravo' wheels, (raised 5 circle pattern and rougher hewn), they are fetching something in the neighborhood of $20K - $30K a set! Mangusta wheels are one of the most beautiful cast of all time imho