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Hi all, this is going to sound like a very basic question,  but how do you control the heat from the Heater (not AC) on a Goose?  

Reason I ask is that my car never had the centre console cover fitted (had interior stripped to some degree), and from what I can see has also never been retrimmed.  Behind the ashtray it had 3 slots with Ferrari Dino / Daytona style sliders for hot cold  and direction (x 2 same) .  I’m pretty convinced they were a later edition as I have never seen another car with those sliders or anything behind ashtray.  The trim lines follow right to rear bulkhead with nothing there.
Does anyone else have these sliders or seen them?

But it got me to think how do you control the temp of the heater under dash?  
The lever is the directional and it only has 2 hose outlets to side which are windscreen vents, does the Cabin air just vent out front and below the heater assembly?.  It has the fan switches on dash and the under dash AC does the rest.  But I can't see where you'd regulate the heat (altho I appreciate that may be a relative term!)
Where is the hot / cold control???
And should there be a legend / writing on front panel of heater?
Car is currently in for trim so I just need to confirm 100% that the sliders shouldn’t be there (I’m also asking because everything points to my car being one of the German assembled cars so I know these were different and I don't know if this was one of those differences - hadn't heard of it before)
As usual, any help will be gratefully received


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I don't think I've ever seen those controls on another Mangusta.  The fan speed switch is in the bank of switches, the 2 flap controls are on the left side of the heater assembly and temperature on the right.

The heater was adopted from a Mini Innocenti(ni), its just that crude--with a single on/off for the fan (completely independent of the other under-dash system, the Ayacsa AC unit). The only levers to control the heater are the ones that open the engine decklids and let you manually roll the bypass valves...

I have no idea at all for the in-dash systems starting at 8ma1100--Lee

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Thanks guys, a Austin / Morris  Mini heater was the first thing that I thought but of course they would have used the Italian version.  I have to look closer (car isn't with me at moment) as I'm sure there were no controls on the side and I did wonder if the heater valve in engine bay was the control.

Should it be blank on the front panel with no writing (unlike the Mini) ?


Fascinating...  Perhaps one of the levers went to the valves in the engine bay to regulate the flow a bit so it wasn't just "On" or "Off", the 2nd lever switched between defrost and cabin with the third switch for fan speed?   

Personally, I would retain it as it is unique and from the era.  If it were a cheap obvious hack i would go back to factory configuration, but these look like nicely chosen and executed period correct mods.


Re defrost vents

I think they are same as Ferrari Daytona and Alfa Montreal.  But they are also same as (or are so close as makes no difference to a Fiat 124 Spider).  I bought a set off eBay for £30 (c $36).  Guy has lots Fiat parts.  Same diameter and with same tabs as above, not sure if the Mangusta were unique but somehow I doubt DT wouldn't have just raided the parts bin.

There is also a guy in Holland who I buy Alfa Montreal parts from, and could have the part if anyone needs some.


It would be fun to be sure, just to lock down (one of these questions that never really need to be answered, just filling the hole goes far enough but what I see for the Daytona is that the tabs are at 12:00 and 6:00, where for the Goose they are at 3:00 and 9:00 (with the 4 supports oriented vertically and the smaller ribs horizontal). I even looked at Autobianchi just now, they look like the Fiat pieces...But couldn't find a good picture of the Montreal.

  Probably just one of those details that is best left forgotten #6500-357, Complessivo bocchetta sbrinatrice"

Wow I have never seen one of those little plastic tips still on the lever. Now 2 are shown here. I’ll have to go back to original literature to confirm.

I have a couple of round vents in my knickknack box. I’ll have to reconfirm they are correct DeT parts.

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Denis, oh, yeah, what a joy it was when Nate commented the heater box was from IPRA and a hundred ebay searches later the association to the Italian version of the Mini (Innocenti) became clear...(the black car is 8ma1046 of course, but that heater knob was one of the things in my pickle jar labeled "precious bits" that is still AWOL...)--Lee

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I pulled a pair of Defroster Vents out of a Fiat 124 and the turning knob "ears"  are clocked at 6 & 12....and stand straight up (not slanted) and were a different size?  I can check size if anyone wants?   ALSO: Mangusta has 11-louvers...and Fiat 124 only has 8-louvers, but a different year or Model of a Fee-Fought 124 could be different?

  I should quit looking for Vents and worry about locating a Top Dashboard Tin Cover to put the vent in_Ha!

I will add a photo of a Fiat 124 Vent below _Thanks


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IMG_1356IMG_1358IMG_1363Ok found them. I bought from someone's extra parts and they are 124 vents, I hadn't inpected them. I have a late production car (finished in Germany)   Side by side you can see the difference, they are not the same. 124 vent in on right


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denisc  That is a bummer . . . I  have a pair of vents I pulled out of a Fiat 124 they are bigger (90mm dia.) and My goose are 75mm dia. and they have more louvers.

My goose vents have mounting studs broken off. They will lay in there holes and might look Ok . . . But when I get My car roadworthy and ever decide to ship it to Germany and run the Auto-bon "at speed" . . . they might blow out _Ha!

In photos below:  Fiat 124 on Left,  Mangusta on Right    _Thanks



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