Mangusta Heater Controls

I don't think I've ever seen those controls on another Mangusta.  The fan speed switch is in the bank of switches, the 2 flap controls are on the left side of the heater assembly and temperature on the right.

The heater was adopted from a Mini Innocenti(ni), its just that crude--with a single on/off for the fan (completely independent of the other under-dash system, the Ayacsa AC unit). The only levers to control the heater are the ones that open the engine decklids and let you manually roll the bypass valves...

I have no idea at all for the in-dash systems starting at 8ma1100--Lee

Thanks guys, a Austin / Morris  Mini heater was the first thing that I thought but of course they would have used the Italian version.  I have to look closer (car isn't with me at moment) as I'm sure there were no controls on the side and I did wonder if the heater valve in engine bay was the control.

Should it be blank on the front panel with no writing (unlike the Mini) ?

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The wonderful news, the knob is from the Mini... but there is no writing--its just the lonely crackle paint and done!

Thanks Lee, Mini parts I can find!  

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Fascinating...  Perhaps one of the levers went to the valves in the engine bay to regulate the flow a bit so it wasn't just "On" or "Off", the 2nd lever switched between defrost and cabin with the third switch for fan speed?   

Personally, I would retain it as it is unique and from the era.  If it were a cheap obvious hack i would go back to factory configuration, but these look like nicely chosen and executed period correct mods.

MH

I was also looking for a Heater lever knob for My 1970 Mangusta project. Thanks for the info. that the Heater was a Smiths from a Mini. I found a new knob listed on eBay for $8.48 US from the UK. I received one and it is a Nice item.

Hey ZF-1.  I don’t think that design knob is accurate.  Which location knob are you missing?  

Denis, this one? (on pre 8ma1100 with the below dash IPRA heater unit. Still would love to see what the later units look like naked...)

Denis,  #994 has the style Knob I was looking for...I got a New one off eBay........Now I am in search of the  Round louvered Defrost outlet grilles.

Yeah, that is a picture of the right (Mangusta) defroster vent. With the big tabs aligned on the small fins, its a little different from anything I've seen on Fiat, and I don't think anyone has found a match on another car.

Re defrost vents

I think they are same as Ferrari Daytona and Alfa Montreal.  But they are also same as (or are so close as makes no difference to a Fiat 124 Spider).  I bought a set off eBay for £30 (c $36).  Guy has lots Fiat parts.  Same diameter and with same tabs as above, not sure if the Mangusta were unique but somehow I doubt DT wouldn't have just raided the parts bin.

There is also a guy in Holland who I buy Alfa Montreal parts from, and could have the part if anyone needs some.

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It would be fun to be sure, just to lock down (one of these questions that never really need to be answered, just filling the hole goes far enough but what I see for the Daytona is that the tabs are at 12:00 and 6:00, where for the Goose they are at 3:00 and 9:00 (with the 4 supports oriented vertically and the smaller ribs horizontal). I even looked at Autobianchi just now, they look like the Fiat pieces...But couldn't find a good picture of the Montreal.

  Probably just one of those details that is best left forgotten #6500-357, Complessivo bocchetta sbrinatrice"

Wow I have never seen one of those little plastic tips still on the lever. Now 2 are shown here. I’ll have to go back to original literature to confirm.

I have a couple of round vents in my knickknack box. I’ll have to reconfirm they are correct DeT parts.

Denis, oh, yeah, what a joy it was when Nate commented the heater box was from IPRA and a hundred ebay searches later the association to the Italian version of the Mini (Innocenti) became clear...(the black car is 8ma1046 of course, but that heater knob was one of the things in my pickle jar labeled "precious bits" that is still AWOL...)--Lee

Denis,  Please check your stash, if you have one (or two). . . I could use them. Both of mine are broken.  _Thanks for checking

I pulled a pair of Defroster Vents out of a Fiat 124 and the turning knob "ears"  are clocked at 6 & 12....and stand straight up (not slanted) and were a different size?  I can check size if anyone wants?   ALSO: Mangusta has 11-louvers...and Fiat 124 only has 8-louvers, but a different year or Model of a Fee-Fought 124 could be different?

  I should quit looking for Vents and worry about locating a Top Dashboard Tin Cover to put the vent in_Ha!

I will add a photo of a Fiat 124 Vent below _Thanks

Ok found them. I bought from someone's extra parts and they are 124 vents, I hadn't inpected them. I have a late production car (finished in Germany)   Side by side you can see the difference, they are not the same. 124 vent in on right

denisc  That is a bummer . . . I  have a pair of vents I pulled out of a Fiat 124 they are bigger (90mm dia.) and My goose are 75mm dia. and they have more louvers.

My goose vents have mounting studs broken off. They will lay in there holes and might look Ok . . . But when I get My car roadworthy and ever decide to ship it to Germany and run the Auto-bon "at speed" . . . they might blow out _Ha!

In photos below:  Fiat 124 on Left,  Mangusta on Right    _Thanks

IIRC when I was searching quite a few for  Fiats were wrong size. The 124 Spider (or at least that was seller advertised them as) were exactly the right size. May be that other 124’s / Fiats are different. My car is at trimmers so whether the right number of slots I can’t tell you.

leea  Those 72mm Fiat 850 spider defroster vents are close to the 75mm goose size and might work OK. The finger tabs are clocked 90-degrees different and not slanted and they have  9-louvers instead of 8 but will fill a hole in somebody's dashboard .    

Fiat 850 on Left below . . .Mangusta on Right  _Thanks

You know, someday when we have accessible 3D printing, still the best thing is just go with the 850 vents and call it a day Lee