Motor For Sale

Coz am I reading this right?? Someone actualy made an aluminum block Cleveland??

That is my understanding of this motor.

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Originally posted by DeTom:
Coz am I reading this right?? Someone actualy made an aluminum block Cleveland??

There were a couple of aftermarket companies that produced alloy blocks for the cleveland, in small numbers, long ago. Neither company is still producing the blocks, they may not even be in business.

But in the case of Joe Mendes block, it is an "SK" block, produced by Ford. An engineer within Ford would design a part and afterwards want to produce the part in small quantities (sometimes only 1) for testing. The part was not ready for regular production, so an official part number would not be assigned. In order to get the part produced, the engineer would have to have a disposable number assigned to his part, an "SK" number, which most people accept as meaning "sketch". So this SK block was an engineering test block manufactured by Ford. I'm sure you understand this process DeTom, being in the engineering biz yourself.

I've personally never heard of a Cleveland SK block with a 4.125" bore before, which is very interesting. But yes, there are a few alloy SK blocks floating around, they surface at swap meets from time to time. They are not necessarily heavy duty full race blocks, mostly valuable as historic curiosities. But what a groovy way to build an unique all alloy Cleveland motor for a show car, or hot rod.

cowboy from hell

I am betting because it is so rare it is probably pretty pricey. Besides it will be a long time before I can even mention the word engine to my wife. But maybe someday.

OK George I can't take it anymore. I gotta know, how much weight would this take off over the standard block. I mean is one of them alloy blocks, say maybe, 200 pounds less???? Or is it only like maybe 30 pounds?? I gotta know, it's just killing me.

educated guess, 70 pounds weight saving in the block.

cowboy from hell

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Originally posted by george pence:
educated guess, 70 pounds weight saving in the block.

cowboy from hell

Whew. Thanks George. That was a close one. I am so relived now. If it had been two hundred or more I was going to have to buy it and that would have caused me endless grief. Now I can relax and feel better now. It just kept gnawing away at me, causing me stress, sleepless nights. I am so glad it is less than two hundred pounds.

Hi.I thought I would try to clear up some questions re this motor. It is a 4.125 bore. It
is a full race heavy duty block, bought from Dan Gurney when the stock block racing program was cancelled.DeTom's curiosity about weight made me go to the garage and weight it. 370lbs
with clutch flywheel and blockplate installed.
Starter,alternator and carburator not installed,some water and oil still in block.
As best I can recollect 3 or 4 of these blocks exist today. These blocks came with an internal dry sump system and magnesium pan. I have the original main caps for that system.
At 528 hp and hydraulic roller cam the motor has seen 7400 on the dyno .I believe with a solid lifter cam this motor will produce 750hp
or more.
If any one is interested in any more details or the motor itself I can be reached at s.mendes@juno.com

I am not familiar with the Ford aluminum blocks.
I have only heard about them.
When you say that it is a heavy duty block, what do you mean?
Are they thicker like the XE Nascar blocks?

What is the asking price of the engine?

ford did produce or had someone produce for them
some 302 boss blocks and some 351 cleveland blocks for different racing programs. the 351 cleveland blocks where specifically for racing
withadditional bolt bosses extra head bolts,big
bore 4.125 cylinders o rings for water and cylinder sealing though head gaskets are now used on this block, 4bolt mains with the dry sump system in the pan.I believe these where part of the Indy stock block that ford and Dan Gurney were involved in. As far as actual block thickness I am not familiar with what the xe nascar blocks look like. I have 25000.00 in it not counting the block itself. Make me an offer.

do you have pictures of what your talking about .. is this an alloy factory block ???? a C or a W block.

Ron

Is this a Ford Factory full race alloy block?
Does it have FoMoCo id# and casting numbers?
Detailed pictures would be helpful.

yes this is a cleveland Ford factory alloy block
made specifically for a racing series
The block does have a Ford number stamped in the valley but I dont remember what it is.
It also has a number stamped on the front rh
corner of the block. ASK7678
I have never posted a picture before and do not know how to do it. If I can figure it out I will
give it a try.

Coz,

how much you want? I don't see any mention of price here.

Shoot me a $$ and lets talk.

Greg,
The motor belongs to Joe Mendes. Don't know if he's still got it or not, it's been awhile.
I know he was looking for a lot for it.
Here's his number...

Joe Mendes
(831) 726-1118

Coz,

I heard you bought it and were in the process of stuffing it into the NSX. Something about 6 cylinders not having enough torque? It's time to fess up, what's the real story?

Jeff (I feel your torque lust angst, bro.)
6559

Greg: I still have the motor. It is sitting in my garage at this time. It is aluminum, so it is not gathering any rust.It is a 370 in. cleveland, perfect for a pantera. The specs I gave Coz are accurate. I just bought an 03 NSX
and have been occupied with that lately.
As you know the best stuff ain't cheap.This is a special piece and I have over $25,000 in reciepts, not including the block itself. I will take $25,000,you pick it up here. If you have any interest we can talk about it.
Call me at 831-726-1118 or 831-818-7940 cell.