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Sigh, it just keeps coming.

First, they mandate you only pay with Paypal.

Now they have a policy where buyer's funds, once collected by Paypal, are held in escrow for 21 days prior to being sent along to the seller.

It appears to only come into play with sellers having less than 100 feedbacks - don't confuse that with the feedback rating. And it may not apply to all that seller's auctions, just the large value auctions - and perhaps not even all of them (random selection may be working here, too).

They only release the funds upon buyer feedback being left, proof of dispatch and delivery being provided by seller, or the passage of 21 days.

So, I've got a seller without money who is being asked to ship the items to me. He of course is confused as to WTF.

Now in essence, this is just shifting the burden of trust from the buyer to the seller. And actually makes refunding for an auction gone bad easier for the buyer, as the funds are in escrow. But for my overseas buying, where delivery often takes more than the 21 days, I can still get screwed and be caught up in the eBay 'buyer protection' scam.

And being new, it confuses the hell out of the sellers who are used to getting their money in a timely manner.

I understand they did this during the Holidays for Wii and powerstation auctions. Enterprising seller camps out, gets item hoping for quick flipping profit to finance their holiday buying and wind up out their money until well after the holidays. Imagine telling your own kid the money for their gifts is held in escrow at Paypal?

And of course, Paypal now has LOTS of $$$$$$ sitting in escrow that is gathering THEM LOTS of interest.

Corporate greed at its finest.

Larry
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Guess this will make it a bit harder for us overseas buyers to get the stuff we want since more sellers probably not will take the risk.

Well, perhaps.

But not really.

The USA seller has the 21 day escrow issue with any buyer, not just overseas buyers.

However, if the seller wants his money NOW, they might block overseas bidders because shipping will take so long. Feedback, to release the escrow, won't come until delivery has been made. Shipping here in the states is faster, but it means nothing until feedback is left. I imagine the process of providing transit and delivery proof is so difficult as to not be a viable tool; by the time it threads through Paypal and eBay, 21 days have probably passed.

I've waited a month or more for USA feedback; if those had been escrow sales, I'd have received my money after the 21 days, just as an overseas delivery.

Trust me, LOTS of buyers take weeks to leave feedback - meaning weeks for escrow release.

So yes, if a seller thinks USA shipping results in quicker feedback - obviously not a given - then they may sell only to USA.

Again, only an apparent issue with sellers having less than 100 feedbacks. And high dollar sales.

Larry
I think this is driven by those that have bank accounts purely for Paypal and the empty funds so there's no possibility of a refund.

On my recent claim Paypal found in my favor but, guess what the guy had no funds in his account. I claim through my credit card and they credit me, thus Paypal is out the money. This is also why Paypal always defaults to a bank account payment as there is no reversal procedure.

I bet the 21 days will also become the limit for filing a claim, so if the item isn't with you on the 20th day you'd better get that claim in.

Julian
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