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I am happy to report that there are no wimps on the CDN Pantera Forum.

After speaking to everyone attending the Great Canadian Classic, I am truly amazed. All but one have committed, regardless of the weather. The forecast is improving daily, but Saturday might be a little wet, so wipers are being installed and Rain-ex is getting applied.

So after 20 years of dry washing my car I have decided to stop being a wimp and take the plunge. It's just a car after all and it ain't gonna melt. Nor will it rust from a little wet. I remember getting misted to death in Monterey and Laguna, so big deal. If I have to clean a little harder when I get home, so be it. I'm fitting my wipers tonight.

See you in Kingston!

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Wayne, glad to hear you got your engine back together. I'm looking forward to seeing your car and meeting. Mark: the forecast is only for a small amount of light rain which will just make it easier to wipe the dead bugs off! Leave really early Saturday morning and we'll keep some beer on ice if you arrive a bit late. It'll be a great weekend! (and we'll SO respect you in the morning...) Smiler
Mark, I'm sorry to hear you're not coming we were looking forward to seeing you and spend some time together guess we'll have to make it up in Pocono. I'm thrilled to hear everyone else is coming should be a great time. David glad to see you tested you're wipers now just imagine if the weatherman got it wrong (like they do so often)and you don't need them!!!! See you all in Kingston Rob6145
I've driven my Pantera in very heavy rain. The wipers performed a commendable job keeping the windshield clear. The trick to prevent the windows from fogging up on the inside when you're running the defrost or heater, is to run the air conditioning at the same time. Its much easier to control the heat adjustment of the early cars when the a/c is running, by the way. The big fat Dunlop tires on back never gave a hint of hydro-planing either.

Good luck everyone, and thanks for your never say die attitudes. Reminds me of the old school attitudes Pantera owners had 30 years ago.

Have a great time, my thoughts are with you.

cowboy from hell
I have to admit that I have been a big pussy for years.

I never went out if the weather looked bad. I never washed the car with water. I avoided any small puddle if I saw one on the road. I never used my wipers. I drove with one eye on the sky and clouds at all time. I hunted weather reports before any trip.

What an idiot I was.

For all the rest of you trailer and garage queen owners, let me tell you something. Driving in the rain adds a whole new dimension to Pantera pleasure.

This car drives as well in the wet as it does in the dry. I took out a pound or two of air out of the tires all around but don't know if that was even necessary. It's stable, doesn't aquaplane and sits solidly on the road even in the pouring rain.

I had no fogging, no visibility problems and those little wipers work just fine when things gets really wet. A little Rain-X also goes a long way.

I saw an exciting new way in which these cars look so unique. There's nothing like watching those fat 13" rear tires pump water out the back. And the spray off the rear wing and other sharp lines of these beautiful cars is a thing of beauty. It was an awakening for me and if it wasn't for the commitment from our whole group to make the Great Canadian Event happen, then I would have missed this incredible experience.

Coz and many others have moaned for years about the fools who don't drive in the rain. And I can't believe it took so long for me to see the errors of my ways. Now that I have done it, there will never be a problem going anywhere because of weather.

Rain or shine, this cat loves to romp.

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Well, new rubber is a thing to consider.

I find that when I drive my car in the wet, with its 20 year old Pirelli P-7s, the back end gets loose on cornering and I don't get the braking I would like (a little more lock-up at times). Old rubber tends to get hard.

BUT ... That didn't stop me from going to the Great Canadian DeTomaso Classic in Kingston !! I had a great time.

Thanks Robert & Lena Di Tota, Mark & Yasmin Charlton and George Pence . In particular a very big hats-off to David & Joanne Berman for organizing the event (including all the details) and making sure it went off so well.

Bohdan
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Originally posted by deeb:
I saw an exciting new way in which these cars look so unique. There's nothing like watching those fat 13" rear tires pump water out the back. And the spray off the rear wing and other sharp lines of these beautiful cars is a thing of beauty. It was an awakening for me and if it wasn't for the commitment from our whole group to make the Great Canadian Event happen, then I would have missed this incredible experience.

Congrats on your awakening! I too love watching the rooster-tails of water coming off the fat rear tires as I blast down the road in the rain. Albiet I don't intentionally make a point of driving in the rain often (well maybe once or twice), the car is a thing of beauty. And wipers are totally unneccessary for speeds over 35mph! We have self-clearing windshields.

Here's a pic of the Banzai Runner one stormy day. When I left for work, it was a beautiful mroning. At the end of the day I returned to a wet parking lot to find #4033 literally COVERED with pine needles, leaves and elm seeds (Note to self: Do not park within a stone's throw of a pine tree again). The wind had blown every loose and dead pine needle from the trees onto the Banzai Runner, and those things get everywhere. After about ten minutes of picking the needles out of the vent grills just ahead of the windshield and various other places, I got in and started for home. It began to sprinkle so I turned on the wipers to clear the windshield - nothing! I tried the switch several times, but no wipers - Damn it! Just then, I realized the wiper blades were in the trunk! Yes, I'm an idiot. Turns out the wipers work just fine when they're installed, but who wants to look at those unsightly wiper arms on that sexy Italian bodywork. So, I hurried onto the freeway to clear the windshield.

I took this picture once I got home. This is only the debris that survived the drive home on the freeway; a mere fraction of what had literally covered the car only 20 minutes earlier.

Anyway, I'm glad to hear you're driving your car! Keep it up!

Ciao!
Garth

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Originally posted by george pence:
I've driven my Pantera in very heavy rain. The wipers performed a commendable job keeping the windshield clear. The trick to prevent the windows from fogging up on the inside when you're running the defrost or heater, is to run the air conditioning at the same time. Its much easier to control the heat adjustment of the early cars when the a/c is running, by the way. The big fat Dunlop tires on back never gave a hint of hydro-planing either.

Good luck everyone, and thanks for your never say die attitudes. Reminds me of the old school attitudes Pantera owners had 30 years ago.

Have a great time, my thoughts are with you.

cowboy from hell


Hear, hear.

Panteras are better to drive than ordinary cars; but when the weather gets crappy, they are MUCH, MUCH better than ordinary cars. I always felt that I appreciated my Pantera the most when the conditions were bad.

For example: In January 1976 I drove my Pantera across the Rockies from Penticton, BC to Edmonton, Alberta via Banff in the dead of winter. It was dark; the snow was deep; the road was mostly compact snow; the original Arrivas were on their last legs (yep, no snow tires); there wasn't much traffic. I did the 600 miles in about 12 hours, and it was a pleasurable drive. My best time in the summer for the same trip was about 11 hours (lots more traffic).

As for the windshield being self-clearing at speed, my experience was different. I once drove from Red Deer to Calgary in 40 minutes in the wee hours (that's 80 miles; statute of limitations is over, right?). I was limited to about 90mph for the first 10 or 15 minutes because the wipers would lift off the glass and fail to clear the rain; I made up the 120mph average on the latter part of the trip.

I didn't baby the car; to me, it was meant to be used. But that was then, this is now. My next one will get treated much more preciously.

Cheers,
Marcus
Marcus, You note that you owned #6339. This is a bit odd, but does this car look familiar? It's #6239 and it came from Calgary. Was it yours, by chance (the numbers are so close)? The wheels have been changed and much has been upgraded by the current owner. If you have photos of your car, please find a way to post them for us. Hope you get another one.

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Marcus, You note that you owned #6339. This is a bit odd, but does this car look familiar? It's #6239 and it came from Calgary. Was it yours, by chance (the numbers are so close)? The wheels have been changed and much has been upgraded by the current owner. If you have photos of your car, please find a way to post them for us. Hope you get another one.


Can you believe it? I have NO pictures of my car, or me with it. I think my dad has a picture up close of me sitting in it with the window open, but I haven't seen it in a long time. I guess my lack of pictures makes the documentation I still have more valuable to me.

Except for the wheels, the orange car #6239 looks exactly like my red one did, right down to the chrome mirror and the fender-mount aerial. If it was bought new in Calgary, it probably came from Don Rebal Lincoln-Mercury in Great Falls, Montana with a Blaupunkt radio mandatory option. (I think they made more money on the radio than the car.)

Cheers,
Marcus
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