What oilpan is usual used on a Mangusta?
how many liters oil?
what dipstick?
Thanks
Simon
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I'd guess 99% are stock, but Aviaid now makes a fully baffled 8-qt pan for the 289/302 Windsor blocks that fit a Mangusta, thanks to Larry Stock and Steve Liebenow (2 or 3 returns for tweeks). Its a good idea for the same reasons its a great idea on a Pantera to not out-corner the oil contained in the pan.
Thanks Bosswrench.
Simon
Simon
Hold that order!!!
I stated a LONG time ago that the Goose pan that I designed with Aviad was WRONG!
Due to the fact that my engine had been lifted (frame mounts modified!!!) and once the mounts were returned to stock height (so I could fit the stock air cleaner...duh!!) that oil pan sticks down below the frame rails and becomes the target of every driveway ramp you try to finagle over!!!
See post several down of 8 qt pan sticking down below frame rails!
When I contacted Aviad about changing the design, by shortening it 1.75" or so, I was told no.......
SOOOOO, I went to Armando Oil Pans and had him make me up the custom pan that I wanted.
Now, because shtuff happens....perhaps Aviad is making a different pan......but I would check on the depth dimension and see where that puts the bottom of your pan when measured from the oil pan rail on the engine....
My Armando pan is full length, fully baffled, with windage provisions, relieved slightly for starter removal, has front and rear drains, and has bung at front for installing oil temp sensor.
Have attached picture(s)....
I stated a LONG time ago that the Goose pan that I designed with Aviad was WRONG!
Due to the fact that my engine had been lifted (frame mounts modified!!!) and once the mounts were returned to stock height (so I could fit the stock air cleaner...duh!!) that oil pan sticks down below the frame rails and becomes the target of every driveway ramp you try to finagle over!!!
See post several down of 8 qt pan sticking down below frame rails!
When I contacted Aviad about changing the design, by shortening it 1.75" or so, I was told no.......
SOOOOO, I went to Armando Oil Pans and had him make me up the custom pan that I wanted.
Now, because shtuff happens....perhaps Aviad is making a different pan......but I would check on the depth dimension and see where that puts the bottom of your pan when measured from the oil pan rail on the engine....
My Armando pan is full length, fully baffled, with windage provisions, relieved slightly for starter removal, has front and rear drains, and has bung at front for installing oil temp sensor.
Have attached picture(s)....
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To answer your original questions, Goose used a stock Mustang 68 302 oil pan and 1968 302 dipstick C8OE-B or C.... Oil pan may have evolved to 69..70 versions as time went on. Oil plug is lowest part of car..and I've heard of oil plugs getting "loosened" by driveway contact! not a good thing......most just get mashed into ugly...!
When I put in my new engine, I decided to "Panterorize" my dipstick and adapted a 92-ish T-Bird dipstick and tube to the engine. It bolts to the front of the head similar to original but has a "T" handle and a slight curve back and up so you can actually find it in the dark.....confines of the Goose engine bay!
I may or may not have added some more bend to the rear...... I think I just remarked this dipstick with 4-5-6qt levels. Easy cheesy!
When I put in my new engine, I decided to "Panterorize" my dipstick and adapted a 92-ish T-Bird dipstick and tube to the engine. It bolts to the front of the head similar to original but has a "T" handle and a slight curve back and up so you can actually find it in the dark.....confines of the Goose engine bay!
I may or may not have added some more bend to the rear...... I think I just remarked this dipstick with 4-5-6qt levels. Easy cheesy!
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OK, I couldn't find a pic of the 8Qt Aviad pan installed with the new lower mounts.....slacking on camera skills....! Probably too excited...!
However, note that the boss in the picture is for the brake amplifier valve on the frame....how it had been modified from contact with terra asphalta! Imagine the bottom of the oil pan that you see here, about 1.25" (or 1.75"??) lower (CRS...can't recall exact engine mount difference! Probably in my "Oops I'm doing it again post" where I detailed all this rebuild....but pictures got trashed by Comcast....so back to one pic at a time...)
However, note that the boss in the picture is for the brake amplifier valve on the frame....how it had been modified from contact with terra asphalta! Imagine the bottom of the oil pan that you see here, about 1.25" (or 1.75"??) lower (CRS...can't recall exact engine mount difference! Probably in my "Oops I'm doing it again post" where I detailed all this rebuild....but pictures got trashed by Comcast....so back to one pic at a time...)
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Here is original pic of 8qt pan in "raised" (modified mount)position! Already close to bottom of boss....and went WAY down once mounts were lowered to stock height!!
Note in LH of this pic, you can see bellhousing shield and how close oil pan bottom is to bottom of shield. Compare this to my first pic in my first post here....I'd have to say that I shortened the new pan by 1.75" based upon this!
I probably could have gotten by with a 1/2" lower pan.....but I also recall lifting my engine about 1/4" with spacers on my engine mounts(to the block 4 places) to level it out a tad. Not sure if the rear trans mounts were lifted also.....and wasn't going there as apparently the rear mounts vary from car to car! So I used spacers to level the engine out just a tad...and still fit the stock air cleaner.
Since no one should be driving these cars as they were intended......6-7 qts in one of the new pans should be fine.......! You will never find out if you can oil starve your engine!
PS: Use a stock oil pump.... High Volume pumps have been known to float valves at higher RPMs due to excess pressure caused by the higher volume.....
I have a Visio drawing of the new pan somewhere......which I sent to Armando.
Note in LH of this pic, you can see bellhousing shield and how close oil pan bottom is to bottom of shield. Compare this to my first pic in my first post here....I'd have to say that I shortened the new pan by 1.75" based upon this!
I probably could have gotten by with a 1/2" lower pan.....but I also recall lifting my engine about 1/4" with spacers on my engine mounts(to the block 4 places) to level it out a tad. Not sure if the rear trans mounts were lifted also.....and wasn't going there as apparently the rear mounts vary from car to car! So I used spacers to level the engine out just a tad...and still fit the stock air cleaner.
Since no one should be driving these cars as they were intended......6-7 qts in one of the new pans should be fine.......! You will never find out if you can oil starve your engine!
PS: Use a stock oil pump.... High Volume pumps have been known to float valves at higher RPMs due to excess pressure caused by the higher volume.....
I have a Visio drawing of the new pan somewhere......which I sent to Armando.
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Thanks Steve for the detailed information.
Regards
Simon
Regards
Simon