Original Air Cleaner details

Panteras when New did not have any decals on the aircleaner.

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Panteras when New did not have any decals on the aircleaner.

I have the orginal aircleaner ( not painted or recromed) for #6287, and there is not any decals on the aircleaner.

When I pulled mine, I could see the glue outline of the semi circle one, but decal was long gone.

Chrome was far better in that area than the rest, so I figured it had been in place for much of it's early, protected life.

I could also make out a small rectangle glue 'witness' toward the right rear. Guess its like a lot of things with these cars; sort of changes with the Italian wind.

Is there ANY evidence that the '5.8 Liter' one claiming to be for a Pantera was ever seen on one new?

Mike, I know you saw your share of these cars new, so not disputing, just seeking any news from the fringe.

So you are worried about the friggin sticker on your air cleaner?

The air cleaner that is now restricting the air flow of your new "Blue Thunder" intake and carb.

And how do you see the sticker under an “L” screen anyway?


Oh I forgot the originality theme of your Vette seated frog.

You are such a "Poser”!

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Originally posted by Pantera 4134:
So you are worried about the friggin sticker on your air cleaner?

The air cleaner that is now restricting the air flow of your new "Blue Thunder" intake and carb.

And how do you see the sticker under an “L” screen anyway?


Oh I forgot the originality theme of your Vette seated frog.

You are such a "Poser”!

This is how Panteras lost their way. No regard historiical accuracy. I bet you have bondage-style seatbelts in your car.

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Originally posted by A Hudson:

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Originally posted by Pantera 4134:
So you are worried about the friggin sticker on your air cleaner?

The air cleaner that is now restricting the air flow of your new "Blue Thunder" intake and carb.

And how do you see the sticker under an “L” screen anyway?


Oh I forgot the originality theme of your Vette seated frog.

You are such a "Poser”!

This is how Panteras lost their way. No regard historiical accuracy. I bet you have bondage-style seatbelts in your car.

Safety first Adams!

I hope someone can tell us if the OEM cleaner is as restrictive as it appears. Especially after you add headers/intake and higher flow carb. My guess is that you are leaving a few horses in the barn.

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Originally posted by Pantera 4134:

I hope someone can tell us if the OEM cleaner is as restrictive as it appears. Especially after you add headers/intake and higher flow carb. My guess is that you are leaving a few horses in the barn.

I bet it is. The snorkel area is a joke, like 10 square inches. The vacuum door about the same. Not much.

Though I started this discussion about an original 'look', I've considered cutting a 3rd port in this air cleaner (not my original) toward the invisible front just for a little more air.

I'm dangerous with a Dremel.

Buy a nice 360 air cleaner with maybe a K&N filter. You are not still afraid of K&N are you? No MAP sensors to foul out!

Jeff

Okay, I've lost it.

I took the 2 barrell air cleaner (same carb diameter, but sits lower in the engine compartment) and...

1. Media blasted 30 years of crud off of it.
2. Cut additional intake port (that vacuum door thing) like the original 4 barrel air cleaner has.
3. Cut two additional ports, added louvered panels. (Just riveted them on and painted them. I'm like a cheap and untalented Kirk Evans.)
4. Cleaned up the other bits that were on the air cleaner.

I know have a semi-original looking, updated, louvered 2V air cleaner for a 4v car. Yes, I do feel pretty.

Adams, yes you have lost it !

Again I ask why ?

It will cover your after market carb. But not your silver "Blue Thunder" manifold . Or your Vette seats, Mitsu radio and ..........

In my feeble estimation, my motor still looks like a Ford Boss motor, aluminum intake and all. The Ford air cleaner is just something I happen to like.

There was definitely a rectangular sticker on the blue part of the air cleaner. What is was is the subject of debate. I have never seen a period photo that indicates a sticker on the air cleaner lid, however.

Finally! Mr. Originality speaks up! I looked all through threads here, plus some super low mileage cars and even Mustang sites.

What it 'looks' like to me is the Autolite filter sticker. I ordered all the stickers that seem to be period correct and will match what I find to the fuzzy photographs.

Even the low mileage white 74 at Canepa doesn't have the same mark on the right head as my 74 did when I got it. (A yellow circle of paint with a number in it.)

Some of this stuff is left to interpretation I guess, in the best of Italian or semi-disorganized workers of the moment.

Will share what I find.

Vypr, do you have any photos of your engine compartment thus far? Any details there to share?

Adams,
It sounds like you have what you are looking for. But just in case you do not go to Mustangs Unlimited . They have a plethora of stickers for seemingly every Ford engine.


http://www.mustangsunlimited.com/Default.asp

They are here in metro ATl. So you could take the frog and hop on over.

Adams,

As an original owner of a '71 Pantera, I can tell you that there were no stickers on my air cleaner. FWIW, the orange parts book doesn't list any stickers for the air cleaner.

John

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Originally posted by jb1490:
Adams,

As an original owner of a '71 Pantera, I can tell you that there were no stickers on my air cleaner. FWIW, the orange parts book doesn't list any stickers for the air cleaner.

John

And I am POSITIVE you know your car and what came on it. That's incredible. Not many original owners of these cars.

For the later cars (or maybe just however the factory felt that day) here are a couple shots of the 135 mile car at Canepa, a 1974 model.

Also, my car (one owner til I got it) had a chrome lid unlike the one in the photograph.

Here's the mysterious square sticker shown...

And the emissions sticker, which mine also had on the left valve cover, plus a circular sticker mine did NOT have, but was painted on the right side. Ahhh, the Italian influence must've gotten to the sticker department...

Here's the sticker from my original early '73 air cleaner. It's just a paper sticker, but maybe there's enough there for Ford parts folks to decode.

Brian

I googled a bit and came up with:

D3ZF-9600-BA
1973 Mercury Cougar / Ford Mustang 351-4V Air Cleaner Base

Adams

The car with the blue air cleaner lid is a Pantera L, or at least it has a "L" engine screen. Pantera L's were equipped with Q code motors, and Q code motors came with chrome air cleaner lids.

So, the one in your picture was painted blue because the chrome was in bad shape (most likely), or its not the original lid, or its a production anomaly.

Normally, there was a tag on the front of Ford air cleaners, to the right of the distributor, that instructed owners to use Motorcraft replacement filters, or something like that. But that was on the front, not the rear. Remember, in a Pantera you see the side of the engine that is not seen in other cars. A tag on the rear of the air cleaner would not be visible in any car but a Pantera. So its not likely Ford would have originally placed a tag there.

Cobra Jet motors normally had a blue & white Cobra Jet decal on the air cleaner lids, but they were omitted on Panteras. Like Mike Mayberry wrote ... no decals! My very rusty original chrome plated air cleaner lid has never had a decal on it.

The tag in Brian's photo is the part number tag for the air cleaner assembly, D3ZE-9600-BA. I wouldn't expect to find the assembly number tag on an oem air cleaner, only on a replacement air cleaner ... but stranger things have happened.


-G

I would tend to agree with Cowboy From Hell, it seems strange that a part number would be on an air cleaner that is not a replacement, but the Canepa car has a parts number sticker and now we see the same on gen2pantera's. Gen2, are you certain that it is not a replacement air cleaner assembly? The canepa car does appear to have a modified/incorrect air cleaner lid....

My car has the circular valve cover sticker.

I did find one example of the elusive rectangular sticker in red http://www.onlyisuzu.com/~mers...car/NPS07240-3sm.jpg

A Hudson (my colleague in originality!), I would be very happy to take new engine pics this weekend and post them!

Well I know everyone's been on pins and needles waiting to see if George's 2V breather would fit under my screen with the Blue Thunder.

Okay, maybe it was just me.

But for future reference, it does!

Even when the EGR plate came out (about 3/4" or so) I thought the BT would go right back in with the 'correct' air cleaner. No such luck.

It took the 1" drop for the whole affair to fit under the screen. It looks mighty cool in there.

The technician (long time Hi-Po Ford lover) said the BT was "excellent quality" and he THOUGHT it was like the Boss 351 intake. Said the design seemed similar. Correct?

Anyway, the car starts like a champ, is a tiny bit colder natured, but after a few minutes, a perfect idle. RUNS far stronger. (Tech guesstimated +25hp over my stock "boat anchor" as he called it!) The car sounds different too.

Anyway, happy to be back driving. Now the REAL detailing begins.

My 2 cents...I just looked at my 1972 #2715. There are no stickers on the polished (original) cover or the blue air cleaner. I can't remember everything I've done to the car since 1972, but I have been the only person to ever detail the car.

My air cleaner could be a replacement. It came in a box with the car in 1982. I offered the picture since it's in the same position and it's the shape/color as A Hudson's, except I have a chrome lid.

Bringing up an old thread again. Looking at the air cleaner decal on my "new to me" 74L it looks like a different number than D3ZF-9600-BA.

Second number is definitely a 4, hard the tell the third.? and last looks like DB instead of BA.

Dennis
7260

Not a big deal but I'm trying to decided to remove it or replace it but the torn one is front and center on the back of my engine.

Ok, found this on provomo from 7380
Part number is D4OF-9600-DB

Matches mine on 7260

Dennis -

Your motor looks really cool.

Thanks for posting!

Rocky

with some knowledge of UAW sub/assembly line & parts supply process, & I'd imagine that the Ford system was similar back in the day...

and with the Ford engines being sourced from the US, shipped over & assembled into the cars & shipped back again...

you'll see differences in parts identification at each step. because the engines & ancillaries were source as parts, they may & probably do have ID tags on them that batch parts that went directly to the US Mustang assy lines don't have. then once in Italy, again they may have inspection / acceptance markings that could change over several years

Parts Is Parts & parts got marks

I love an Engineering Change!