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My problem has existed since I got my 73 Pantera. If I turn the key to ON and let it stay there for a while, the amp meter readings are normal at around 0. Turning on lights causes slight discharge reading. When I start the car, the reading stays at near 0 for a minute or two then jumps to about 50 amps +. It stays there all the while I am driving the car. When the electric fans come on, the reading goes up a few amps then drops back to about 50 when they go off. Turning on lights causes slight reading increases that drop off when the lights are turned off. The amp meter acts like 50 is the new 0.
I haven't had any problem with running or starting or battery discharge. The car acts normal. I replaced the battery and had the alternator tested. The car has had wiring changes in its history. The alternator is a one wire type and the output goes directly to the amp meter with the other side going to the battery + terminal. A wire goes from the battery + terminal to the starter relay. I haven't figured out how power gets to everything else in the car. There is a wire from the battery + terminal to a fuse block and relays that have been added in the front compartment behind the battery. I am guessing that power to things fed from the factory fuse block comes from wiring attached to the starter relay + wire side from the battery. I haven't yet been able to exactly track that.

Any ideas where to look for something that could cause the amp meter to stay at 0 for a minute or two after the engine starts, then jump to about 50 which acts like the new 0?
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Originally posted by over50:
My problem has existed since I got my 73 Pantera. If I turn the key to ON and let it stay there for a while, the amp meter readings are normal at around 0. Turning on lights causes slight discharge reading. When I start the car, the reading stays at near 0 for a minute or two then jumps to about 50 amps +. It stays there all the while I am driving the car. When the electric fans come on, the reading goes up a few amps then drops back to about 50 when they go off. Turning on lights causes slight reading increases that drop off when the lights are turned off. The amp meter acts like 50 is the new 0.
I haven't had any problem with running or starting or battery discharge. The car acts normal. I replaced the battery and had the alternator tested. The car has had wiring changes in its history. The alternator is a one wire type and the output goes directly to the amp meter with the other side going to the battery + terminal. A wire goes from the battery + terminal to the starter relay. I haven't figured out how power gets to everything else in the car. There is a wire from the battery + terminal to a fuse block and relays that have been added in the front compartment behind the battery. I am guessing that power to things fed from the factory fuse block comes from wiring attached to the starter relay + wire side from the battery. I haven't yet been able to exactly track that.

Any ideas where to look for something that could cause the amp meter to stay at 0 for a minute or two after the engine starts, then jump to about 50 which acts like the new 0?


The amp gauge in the Pantera runs all of the power through it to the battery. Many times the actual amp draw is less than indicated and the needle does swing all over the scale on things get turned on. In your case with it staying on zero for a while, I would suspect that the gauge is sticking. If you want to stay with an amp gauge, I would suggest that you replace the one you have with a new one and put a ten gauge wire shunt across the back of it. That can usually keep the gauge from jumping around so much and give it a more accurate reading. I installed the shunt on my amp gauge and it worked for me, but later switched to a volt meter, which does not run full current though it like the amp gauge does.
Maybe try something like this,
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LED-Ca...Tester-/141286816622
Or connect up a volt meter and see what is really happening.
Maybe it is just a sticky amp meter. I have been through 2 amp meters, original burnt up the 2nd one never read correct. I got my original unit rebuilt by Jon Hass. His modifications make the gauge more accurate and safer.
http://www.pantera-electronics...lectriccomponent.htm

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