Sunroof Panteras

That would eliminate the need for dropped floor pans for the taller owners to.

Doug, after Gary Hall did that purple passion car he said he would never again build a targa Pantera. There was way more work to it than what it was worth.

Back in 1980 I moved to Southern Cal to further my "graduate studies" and Malibu was on that list. I saw what was for me my first Mangusta so I wheeled the Old "Judge" around (I had a '69 GTO Judge then) and followed that car home. The owner was gracious to this babbling college kid and answered my many questions. He did tell me that his sunroof was not stock. I later learned that guy was Dino Martin who was tragically killed in a militray flying accident. (It was a flying accident, I beleive he was in the Air Guard). Anyway I think the car later burned in a fire. I am sure some will remember more of the facts and maybe who/where that sunroof was done.

It would probably be hard to seal with the chassis flex in the Pantera. I believe Ferrari never did get Dino's to seal properly due to that problem.

6661's sugar daddy Steve

I believe that having a sunroof on the Pantera DOES devalue it! When I purchased this Machine the seller knocked off $2000. I would never have had 'it' installed, myself; But, a Man named Kiell Quvale, did (whoever he was. LOL). Then, I became 'use' to it. The new views, both Out of and Into the Pantera are very unique, in the least. Especially looking, from outside the car, down into the cockpit, through the rear window and viewing the engine. It's just different, like seeing the interior through a 'Glass Case'. This SunRoof is mirrored, can be opened a couple of inches for much needed ventilation and is removable to produce (if you'll allow me) a 'Semi-Targa' roof. To correct the popular belief that a sunroof will add headroom; this is NOT the case as the interior 'trim ring' protrudes down from the headliner 1.0". I like having it a lot and would not want to do without it. Any questions!? Just plant them here and they'll be answered.

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Marlin

Any pics from inside the car?

madguy

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Marlin, I don't think it looks bad. Whoever did yours didn't lowball it. That one I think is an "American Sunfoof" unit.

Don't worry. I'm not about to run out and do one.
I'm just wondering what it is that seemingly eberyone objects to?

Is this the kind that Dino Martin had in the Mangusta? I never heard about him being a Detomaso owner.

I'd like to see the view from the interior too.

That quvalle guy he is talking about that did his car was one of the biggest DeTomaso importers ever. He is the one who tried to get DeTomaso to build a new Mongoose. What a dissaster that was for him. Business wise.

I only know of a couple of the importers, Stroupe, Staufer and Wilkins I think.
I'm not sure why the sunroof devalues the car. Maybe because it wasn't factory?
I'll bet you that Roland doesn't think that his Targa is worth less.

...The name is Quvale! He was going to import the mongusta into San Francisco. This Pantera was part of his collection, stored in a warehouse in SanFrancisco before it was auctioned off at Monterey to 'Fantasy Junction' in Emeryville, Ca. A Exoticar dealer. I purchased the car from them in Aug. 2001. In my Opinion adding a aftermarket SunRoof to your Pantera DeValues it (as far as a Purist or Collector is concerned), because you HACKED UP THE ROOF!!! There is a LOT of 'TALK' on this BB, but very few are awake and paying attention. For those who requested them; photos from inside the Pantera looking through the SunRoof, are on the way. And I would like to know why I was changed from 'Sustaining Pro' to 'Active Enthusiast'!!? I consider it a demotion...

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There is a LOT of 'TALK' on this BB, but very few are awake and paying attention

Marlin,

Paying attention would show that your change to 'Active Enthusiast' was an automatic - upgrade - due to your number of posts. However, with 994 posts you should be at the 'major contributor' level. In any case, we're glad to have you here.

But I suppose you can consider it a demotion if you wish.

Larry

Photo #1

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#3 Showing Red Map Light

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#6 Looking out from inside, Rearview Mirror Mount can be seen, the Sun is directly overhead and just to the left. Maybe these photos will answer your questions.

...Just added the flag decals of Our Great Nation!!

...It might help if I included the picture, Duh.

I think it is pretty nice addition.

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I think it is pretty a pretty nice addition.

I agree

Thanks for sharing Marlin.

Beautiful Pantera!
Let the sun shine in!!!

Josh

I am speechless....

Who said "devalued?" A Pantera Purist? Is there such a thing? These ain't no wussy Ferraris. I would love to have an open roof on this car. The Targas are awesome. And yours is nice option.

I kinda feel like MJ. I like it but wouldn't add the unit to a car.
The criteria to add it would have to be that the addition of the moonroof would have to be so earthshattering of an improvement that 90% of the owners would hurry out and add one because it was so fantastic.
I don't think that it matches that kind of criteria.
Best leave the car alone and just be in awe at Marlin Jacks car.

Looks great Marlin. Reminds me of the late model Lotus Espirit V8 Turbo roofs. does it come out to? Notice any body flex?
I would love to see more of the map light!!!!

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Notice any body flex?

None should be noted since structural integrity isn't compromised.

Josh

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A Pantera Purist? Is there such a thing? These ain't no wussy Ferraris.

Thank goodness!

...NO body flex, NO squeaks or groans. This Cat is pretty solid, I was lucky! NO 'Air Noise', at all, when closed; and very little Noise when opened the 2 inches. Can,t tell you if it leaks or not because it has never been in the rain or 'Hose Washed'. It IS REmovable, making a 'Semi-Targa' roof. More close-up pictures of the Map Light and switch, are on the way. I will put them on a NEW thread. I Thank ALL for the kind support!!...

I remember seeing a sunroof that was on a small roof car like the Pantera and could be opened electronically but it stored above the roof when fully opened.
I can't remeber what it was? How does the 944 roof work?
What does the NSX roof look like?
MJ, this roof thing just won't let me go!

PanteraDoug,

My first Pantera was a '74 L that I had for a year or so before I decided to put a sunroof in it. I got the biggest smoked glass roof I could find and installed it myself. It took several hours to do and only required cutting of the sheet metal roof (no structure was cut into).

It took up the entire headliner area and what a difference it made! When I took the roof out, it was a whole different driving experience! It stored in a vinyl pouch in the trunk. It never leaked, creaked, or groaned. I thought it looked cool too when it was popped up about 2". Another added benefit was that I could see the other drivers, and knew if they saw me or not. Being in a low car, this made me better able to anticipate their movements.

If you've got the stones to cut your roof out, I would not hesitate to recommend it. I saved the cutout and gave it to the guy who bought that car in case he wanted to remove the sunroof permanently. It did not decrease the value of my Pantera, in fact, the new owner liked it alot.

I now own an '86 targa 5-S and would never go back to a solid roofed Pantera (or other sports car) again!

Michael

here are some links for an electric one that slides up as it opens. If I had the balls to cut my beast

http://www.sunroofdoctor.com/

http://www.donmar.com/sunroofs/espoil2.htm

http://www.inalfasunroofs.com/

Gary #06984

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here are some links for an electric one that slides up as it opens. If I had the balls to cut my beast

http://www.sunroofdoctor.com/

http://www.donmar.com/sunroofs/espoil2.htm

http://www.inalfasunroofs.com/

Gary #06984

What do mean balls? You just need a jigsaw. You can use mine.

My Contour SVT and Taurus SHO both have "moonroofs"
My hair always looks like Krammers from having the thing open.

The electric spoiler version would work great on a Pantera. I can't find my jigsaw. Did you borrow it?

Thanks for the links.