Where's the info on the part #'s for the Taurus window motors? 3 hole or 4 hole? I did it a few years back but can't find the part #'s
Will
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Will,
I got mine from the wrecking yard. Unless you insist on having a warranty any early to mid 90's taurus will work. Take the motors out of the back doors and they will be practically brand new. 5 bucks each. I picked up 3 each side just in case. Take a hammer and chisel to knock the rivets out.
Doug M
I got mine from the wrecking yard. Unless you insist on having a warranty any early to mid 90's taurus will work. Take the motors out of the back doors and they will be practically brand new. 5 bucks each. I picked up 3 each side just in case. Take a hammer and chisel to knock the rivets out.
Doug M
I've read that they must be 4 hole. All I can find are 3 hole. Part # E6DF-14A365-AB for LF and A366 for RF.
Do you have the Ford part # handy? 3 or 4 hole?
Will
Do you have the Ford part # handy? 3 or 4 hole?
Will
I got my four hole Aerostar units from NAPA Auto parts, but that was a few years ago. One of the better mods I’ve done to the car to improve its operation. The info is here http://www.panteraplace.com/page164.htm
Bill Taylor came up with the Taurus motor solution. The part numbers for the Taurus parts are here http://www.panteraplace.com/Page187.htm
Both solutions work really well and the nice thing is it improves the operation but it is not visible unless you take the door apart. Those are the type of mods I like best.
Mike
Bill Taylor came up with the Taurus motor solution. The part numbers for the Taurus parts are here http://www.panteraplace.com/Page187.htm
Both solutions work really well and the nice thing is it improves the operation but it is not visible unless you take the door apart. Those are the type of mods I like best.
Mike
Yup, those are the part numbers on my spare motors. Three hole. I had no problems getting them to fit and work perfectly. I pretty much followed Bill Taylor's instructions/guidelines at panteraplace.com
Doug M
Doug M
I believe the four hole motor only applies to the Aerostar units.
Mike
Mike
Do both of these options result in the window going all the way down?
quote:Originally posted by David B:
Do both of these options result in the window going all the way down?
They can and the mods are on Pantera Place.
Mike
quote:Do both of these options result in the window going all the way down?
No. Replacing the motors DOES NOT change the amount the windows go up or down. While the regulators/motors are out, others mods can be done to achieve the lower window position as instructed at Panteraplace. Replacing the motors with stronger motors only makes the operation faster with less current draw. Alternately, if I modify the window lifting mechanism as instructed at Panteraplace and use a stock motor, it will go down lower but very slowly because we're still using the weak stock motor. Two different jobs.
Will
I just finished doing both the Taurus window motor AND the lowering modification and it was 4 or 5 hours (complete one side) really well spent. WHAT A DIFFERENCE!
Mark
Mark
I was afraid to do this mod. A couple of the write ups from our engineer type owners got into almost micrometer type measurements.
However, Bill Taylor convinced me that the Taurus conversion was very easy and had room for error. Meaning it would be highly unlikely that I could totally screw up my window system. I took my time and it was in fact a very easy modification. For those of us on the mechanically challenged side I say just do it! The difference is amazing and I wish I had done this mod years sooner.
For those purists the Taurus conversion is not reversible. But as Mike said it is all hidden in the door. And honestly who would ever want to go back to the super slow originals?
Jeff
However, Bill Taylor convinced me that the Taurus conversion was very easy and had room for error. Meaning it would be highly unlikely that I could totally screw up my window system. I took my time and it was in fact a very easy modification. For those of us on the mechanically challenged side I say just do it! The difference is amazing and I wish I had done this mod years sooner.
For those purists the Taurus conversion is not reversible. But as Mike said it is all hidden in the door. And honestly who would ever want to go back to the super slow originals?
Jeff
I performed the Taurus conversion on my driver's side last winter. It is not difficult at all and I would not consider myself a "skilled" mechanic. Amazing results. Plan on doing the passenger side soon.
Swen
Swen
I did mine last year and what an amazing difference!
Anyone on the fence about this (for tech reasons) shouldn't worry too much. Like Jeff and Swen say, it's pretty easy. In addition to Mike Daily's resources, my website (see this link about halfway down: http://www.markscars.ca/Pantera_Projects_2.html) has some detailed photos of what's involved.
Mark
Anyone on the fence about this (for tech reasons) shouldn't worry too much. Like Jeff and Swen say, it's pretty easy. In addition to Mike Daily's resources, my website (see this link about halfway down: http://www.markscars.ca/Pantera_Projects_2.html) has some detailed photos of what's involved.
Mark
Just got my Aero engines, and whilst I ordered 4 bolt ones, they are not.
Seen no reason though why to go for the 4 bolt version only... These should perfectly too.
Seen no reason though why to go for the 4 bolt version only... These should perfectly too.
I made the conversion last summer and I have no idea how you would get the riders side out if it fails in any place but the full up position.
The drivers side on my car has alot more room and I think I could get the assembley out.
I think I would have to cut the arm in two to get the riders side out.
They sure work, well worth the effort.
John
The drivers side on my car has alot more room and I think I could get the assembley out.
I think I would have to cut the arm in two to get the riders side out.
They sure work, well worth the effort.
John
quote:Originally posted by INZOWHO:
Will,
Take the motors out of the back doors and they will be practically brand new. 5 bucks each. I picked up 3 each side just in case. Take a hammer and chisel to knock the rivets out.
Doug M
Would the back door window motor allow the window to go all the way down? On the Taurus the back windows only go part way down as a safety feature. Or is it stopped by a microswitch?
The back door motors are identical to the fronts. They are stopped in the Taurus by micro switches. No problem in the pantera.
They will not allow the windows to go ALL the way down. Glass will still stick up about an inch as they do with the original motors. The big advantage is the taurus motors will move the glass twice as fast with half the electrical power. Well worth doing the swap.
P.S. Love the orange and black on your car!
Doug M
They will not allow the windows to go ALL the way down. Glass will still stick up about an inch as they do with the original motors. The big advantage is the taurus motors will move the glass twice as fast with half the electrical power. Well worth doing the swap.
P.S. Love the orange and black on your car!
Doug M
Doug,
Thats great news, as I just ordered window motors off e-bay ($19ech) and only after buying did I notice that the right side was from the back door. I will do the mod to make the window go all the way down.
Thanks for the comments on the color, it does stand out in a crowd
Thats great news, as I just ordered window motors off e-bay ($19ech) and only after buying did I notice that the right side was from the back door. I will do the mod to make the window go all the way down.
Thanks for the comments on the color, it does stand out in a crowd
quote:Originally posted by INZOWHO:
They will not allow the windows to go ALL the way down. Glass will still stick up about an inch as they do with the original motors. The big advantage is the taurus motors will move the glass twice as fast with half the electrical power. Well worth doing the swap.
Doug M
True, but if you notch the curved arm and flatten the bottom screw retainer you CAN get them all the way down. The link I posted above shows the mods needed. It is only another 20 min work and also well worth doing while everything is apart.
And I am in complete agreement. Orange is awesome on a Pantera and yours is a really nice hue.
Mark
Hey Will,
Have you found a source for the motors near you? I've tried 2 places out my way, one thinks they might have them and want $35 each, the other is a larger yard, but they don't have any taurus' that old, but they pointed me to a third wreckers up in Richmond Hill that has a number of the cars (I don't have a price yet, I'm going to call tomorrow).
Have you found a source for the motors near you? I've tried 2 places out my way, one thinks they might have them and want $35 each, the other is a larger yard, but they don't have any taurus' that old, but they pointed me to a third wreckers up in Richmond Hill that has a number of the cars (I don't have a price yet, I'm going to call tomorrow).