Undercoating

Looking good! check out this old post of mine and look and see if you have welded on frame reinforcments under the undercoating

http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/1510042044...420061214#4420061214

Most of the early cars I have seen in California have this. Some times its harder to spot under the undercoating

Mark,

I snapped this pick after I was exhausted from undercoating removal.

I had heard that many early cars had steel welded into them when they arrived in the US. What was interesting was it appears that the steel was welded in then they just slapped a bunch of undercoating on. All the areas in my car were painted except the added steel.

The pic is not the best but you can see the steel on the inner frame rail

Yep thats what I found too

Is this for real?? You mean there is paint underneath the undercoating??? I figured it was bare metal under all that tar.

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Originally posted by DeTom:
Is this for real?? You mean there is paint underneath the undercoating??? I figured it was bare metal under all that tar.

Nope, just factory beautiful(?) paint.

Is it only the PB cars that have the rails added? My 1826 doesn't seem to have them.

Nice job AJThree. The hard part is done.

Wow, I so want to do that, but I have sooo many other things to do. You guys are quite diligent.

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diligent

Is that Latin for "Nuts"?

Nuts is right, but I am surprised how nice the paint is. This last pick shows the steps. Right side is after the heat gun and scraper, the left side after some solvent and real elbow grease with a shop rag. If I am careful enough I may be able to get by without a re-paint in the engine bay.

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Is it only the PB cars that have the rails added?

What's a PB car?

And forgive my ignorance, but where is the added steel on the frame rail in the pic from AJThree?

PB - Push button

The myth is that many eary cars had steel welded in when they hit the states. The pic is bad but along the inner frame there wer long pieces of flat stock steel welded in.

Anson

The factory recall modification pieces that are welded over the vertical tubes that support the back suspension mounts can be seen in the parts manual on page 16 part number 10670. They look flat in the drawing but in reality they have a rounded shaped to fit over the tube and have a folded tab that wraps around at the bottom.

Another part fits under the front lower A arm mount and can be seen on page 15 part number 10462. My car has all the mods and when I have time and I need to document all of them on Pantera Place. The parts installed came from the de Tomaso factory, are very professionally made and look like they belong on the car. They are not just chunks of metal haphazardly welded on.

Mike

Looks Good!

I'm starting to remove my undercoating on 1597 Friday. Just got back from Harbor Freight with a heat gun and attachments tonight. Mines yellow too.

What solvent are you using to do final cleanup?

I was planning to use Aircraft stripper to get to bare metal, then rust bullit, expoxy primer filler, body Glaze and shoot PPG urethane paint with a hardner.
I wanted to paint motor and trans to body color and polish the fins

My trans is at precision proformance getting rebuilt(now). I'm Planning on Stainless firewall, Inner fenders, and tank covers.

I used lacquer thinner for the final clean-up, but if you're going down to bare-metal you can use anything aggressive. If you find it slow going with the heat gun, and your coating is as brittle as mine was, you may find that using a really thin (spring-steel) scraper will chip it off nicely. On my car that method was much faster because the coating came off clean leaving very little solvent clean-up after.

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Nope, just factory beautiful(?) paint.

I had bare metal under mine
Will

Mine # 1371 PB also got these weld job done,I thougt it was a bad repair at first but the rest seems way to frech. / Per # 1371

When I cleaned mine off, I used Kerosine. I not only cleaned the engine bay, but also the inside of the fenders around the suspension and the entire underside of the car. Spent 8 hours with a Kersosine rag laying on my back washing the underside of the floor and frame. Is anyone beginning to figure out how I got the name Crazy Dave?

Dave, you cleaned the whole underside in 8 HOURS??? That is amazingly fast (or maybe I'm just really slow...). Got any pics of what it looked like after?

Mark

I only removed the residue in 8 hours. It took me another 16 before that with a putty knife and propane torch to remove the bulk of the undercoating. I have pictures, but none of them are scanned into the computer.

Dave if you get bored...

AJ.. you gotta paint it while its apart. Amazing .. whan I stripped mine 1362..The paint came off with the undercoat because I used aircramt stripper. You may be able to sand prime and repaint over the yellow you have. I pulled the ZF, and got the cluth wet... it froze to the flywheel and I had to pull the ZF again And replace the clutch assymbly too.

LPB,

I plan to have it painted. It should be done next month. I will post pics|

Anson

Some people are not painting the "underbody". They are using the stuff that is intended for pick-up truck beds.

It is some type of a poly. It looks better then undercaoting. It can be tinted to match or contrast your paint. It gives you water, chip protection. It also acts as a sound deadener.

It's actually not a bad idea.

For instance you could do the floorpans with satin black and do all the suspension components in gloss.

It would look more like what a factory might do on a "supercar".

You could also use:

http://www.coolcarceramic.com/index.htm

http://www.lizardskin.com/

which have the benefit of sound and heat insulation.

What a job!!...Spent 12 hours today with a 1000 degree heat gun - 2 cases of Bud Lite and 4 Black Russians later was able to get 90%
of that S..T off.
Used lacquer Thinner and a bunch of rags to remove the rest.
Now its time for Aircraft Stripper and another 14 hours, 3 cases of bud lite and 5 black russians.

EYE OF THE TIGER!!!!

Your right !Were Crazy...
Even the neighborhood kids thought I was nuts!

In my mind - It worth it.

I'll post pics when im clean enough to hold the camera. My wife wouldn't let me in the house.

If your stripping to the metal.....I had small wire wheels on an air die grinder to get to the corners and seams. Get one of the neigborhood kids to come help. It helps to be small in there. The Bed liner materials are an easy alternative, but there is nothing like GLOSS!

Looks Great! What is the twin fan set up from?

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Originally posted by lastpushbutton:
If your stripping to the metal.....I had small wire wheels on an air die grinder to get to the corners and seams. Get one of the neigborhood kids to come help. It helps to be small in there. The Bed liner materials are an easy alternative, but there is nothing like GLOSS!

That is a Mitsubishi fan and shrowd. I ordered the dual crossflow condenser from ackits.com to fit. It blows out the rear and works great with r134a. Air conditioning was a priority for me in the hot humid southeast. I still use the original hoses with new ends.