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Having owned a 73 L model Pantera in the past, and now the owner of a 71 pre L model. I was thinking about the value of the Pantera (71,72) verses the later Pantera (73,74)

I have always preferred the early model split bumpers but I like the gauge or dash layout better on the later models.

Question to bulletin board members. What car is worth more $$$ assuming you could find two cars in the same condition with the same upgrades? or are they worth the same amount?

Please give your opinion and also state what year car you have.
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I don't think many people like the "L" bumpers, I know I don't. But I specifically looked for a '74 "L" when I went shopping. They have fewer gremlins; electrically, body rust, and otherwise. Bumpers can be removed. I've already removed the front bumper from mine. And like you Mark, I like the speedo/tach layout better too.

I haven't noticed much difference in demand between the various years. But I think many buyers want low mileage, unmolested, well maintained or restored cars. That is what I think is most valuable, not the year per se, but the condition & originality of the car.

The word I have heard from the guys selling these cars, the custom jobs are harder to sell. If demand for the Pantera ever exceeds supply, you'll begin to see a great split between the price of the original cars & the modified cars. You can use any other collector car as an example.

Mine's a '74 L.

Trivia: Do you know how to quickly tell the difference between a '73 & '74 L? The windshield wiper shafts of the '74 model protrude from the left side of the cowl grills, the earlier years protrude from the right hand side.

Your friend on the DTBB
I don't think that it is value in dollars some much as it is desireablity.
On the US cars, I thnk that a box stock, as delivered car is the least desireable.
There are several factors. I would say of the Pantera owners I have talked to the number one factor in buying the car was availabilaty.
If an owner had a choice, it would be presentabilaty. Included in that was the condition mechanically and cosmetically.
Did it run? What color is it? Is it full of rust? What condition is the interior in?
Some of the original colors are absolutely terrable. They are 1970's Peter Max "mod" cars.
Red or black is the easiest to sell or buy.
A Pantera is a passionate car. You have to see it in front of you to make a value judgement.
I know more the a few people that wanted "an original car" but came back with a black car with flares and huge tires and wheels.
The last few Hall Super Panteras cost about 150 to build. They don't bring that now.
Few buy the car because of the engine. Few buy it for it's practacalaty.
Many are speculating that it is an investment. It is the lowest on the totem poll as far as "classic values". It can't go much lower. It could go much higher. It is still an undescovered value.
Yep. I had heard that with this car it's value is almost totaly based on it's condition. A lot of guys hate the wings that some people put on their car. Yet they will still buy a car with a wing on it and say to themsleves, "the first thing I am gonna do is take that stupid wing off". Years later that wing is still there. Big Grin
I thing DeTom hit it on the button. My car had a wing on it when I got it about 5 years ago & it's still there. Main reason, besides condition, that I bought the car was because it was located here in Kansas within a 3 hour drive of me. This way I didn't have to go through all the BS involved in liscensing an out of state car here in Kansas. Can always remove the wing in the future & bought a set of louvers just in case I decide to change the looks of it from stock. My car is a late (Dec.) 72L but is titled as a '73 and has the older two pod dash. I really prefer the the newer dash but didn't let this stop me from purchasing this car when I saw the great condition it was in.

Bob
Mark,
I think the proof of the pudding is always quality and not so much the year of the car. A quality Pantera of any year will bring more money than a particular model, stock or modified, that is in tatty condition.

Looking at PIM's track record, I've seen the highest prices go for cars that are well maintained in the condition they are in, whether they're restored/modified/converted/upgraded.

Having the true history of the car, along with documentation are also definite pluses.

Just my thoughts and observations.

Josh
I really would have preferred an earlier car without the L-bumper but now since I installed a fiberglass bumper & painted it body color it looks a lot better IMHO. May still go with a set of the new fiberglass separate small bumpers from Amerisport in the future however.

Bob
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