Thank you Kevin, actually, that is what ia m looking for. a pantera that has been updated not over the top but something that does not need major work. i am still looking, but like i said before here in Southern california i have not seen something like that.
Thank you DeTom, i am willing to wait and hopefully one you "oldtimers" lol will be willing to sell me your pantera. i know you guys have put lots of work in your panteras and that is what want. someone that might want to pass it on. i know it must be extremely tought to let go something that you have enjoyed for decades. but, i will wait
Yeah Speed, I have been pretty sick all winter now. I bet I will kick the bucket soon. You can just tell my widow that I promised you the car for cheap. 
quote:Originally posted by SPEED:
Thank you Kevin, actually, that is what ia m looking for. a pantera that has been updated not over the top but something that does not need major work. i am still looking, but like i said before here in Southern california i have not seen something like that.
Like Detom said, be patient, and learn from guys on this board who aren't shy about telling you their "wish I had done it this way" story.
Here's a very recent example of a car you missed. These show up every once in a while but not that often. The Pantera is a low production vehicle (not rare) so you won't see too many of them for sale at one time.
http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2250045562/m/3230026314
Good Luck,
Kevin
lol, i hope you will get better and keep enjoying your pantera. i will hate to see a guy with so much pantera knowledge kick the bucket. but, i do appreciate all your help and will continue to keep looking.
Best way to find a good Pantera for mini $, Is have money in hand, patience and lots of searching. When you see a deal and know it's a deal jump. Otherwise just sit back. Lot of Pantera's sold through less popular locations some times never seen by the "groups". Search many obscure sites and places. One will eventually show up.
comp2, will you please tell me which places should i search?
thank you
thank you
quote:Originally posted by DeTom:
Jeff did you do those flames yourself or are they a decal?
Decals!!! Yuk!!! Down here your flames are your badge of honor. Mine were done the grandaddy of freehand flame masters, Mr. James Crawford. Having his flames added $1000 to the car in the Hot Rod crowd. %^))
Jeff
6559
I spent about 6 months searching every car vender I could find. I found one online at a small exotic car dealership. Pull up google and just search all the car post you can find.
Gary
Gary
quote:Originally posted by jeff6559:quote:Originally posted by DeTom:
Jeff did you do those flames yourself or are they a decal?
Decals!!! Yuk!!! Down here your flames are your badge of honor. Mine were done the grandaddy of freehand flame masters, Mr. James Crawford. Having his flames added $1000 to the car in the Hot Rod crowd. %^))
Jeff
6559
Sorry Jeff, I didn't know where you are from. You live in the Southland??
Finchster, where are you when we need you buddy! Larry looked long and hard and he found a beauty at a fair price cause he had done his homework.
I might suggest joining POCA and attending local meetings. I can't tell where you are located, but there are chapters all over.
http://www.panteraclub.com/
That way you can be around the cars and the owners and get a better feeling rather than listen to us pontificate on the PI BB. If you want to get more written pontification, I'd also join the POCA email forum. http://realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
Besides lots of good advice and camraderie, they also have a searchable database of past topics.
Besides the Italian body, American iron and German ZF limited slip tranny, don't forget the English. Lucas did the electrics! And the suspension is by Dallara, one the more famous designers of the time. That's why the Pantera has held up so well as evidenced by its success in open road racing. Ask the Vette guys about that. Imagine losing to a 40 year old car!
I might suggest joining POCA and attending local meetings. I can't tell where you are located, but there are chapters all over.
http://www.panteraclub.com/
That way you can be around the cars and the owners and get a better feeling rather than listen to us pontificate on the PI BB. If you want to get more written pontification, I'd also join the POCA email forum. http://realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso
Besides lots of good advice and camraderie, they also have a searchable database of past topics.
Besides the Italian body, American iron and German ZF limited slip tranny, don't forget the English. Lucas did the electrics! And the suspension is by Dallara, one the more famous designers of the time. That's why the Pantera has held up so well as evidenced by its success in open road racing. Ask the Vette guys about that. Imagine losing to a 40 year old car!
I think were getting off the point with this guy. The car that Kevin posted from Michigan was in good woking order with many extras and went for $38K. This guy got upset because some of us mentioned that $35K for a car that does not even run is probably overpriced based on the current market prices.
I just think he just got pissed off because he did not like to hear that.
I don't think many on this bulletin board would pay him $35K for that car.
Tom
I just think he just got pissed off because he did not like to hear that.
I don't think many on this bulletin board would pay him $35K for that car.
Tom
New & Slow that was my point.
I said why do all the work to sell it... we all know they are a money pit .. point being after all the work he would be trying to recoup the money invested. That never happens.
I thought listing it and selling it was his best way out. The fun to me is fixing them up slowly and it would give someone a chance to get in at an affordable level.
Ron
I said why do all the work to sell it... we all know they are a money pit .. point being after all the work he would be trying to recoup the money invested. That never happens.
I thought listing it and selling it was his best way out. The fun to me is fixing them up slowly and it would give someone a chance to get in at an affordable level.
Ron
Well here is what he said about us...
"Unfortunately I have received a very negative response from your community. I have received e-mails that are hateful, posts from people who don’t want to wait for a response. Someone offered me 10k for it and told me that’s the best offer I’ll ever get….. meanwhile a Pantera that is totally dismantled without an engine sells for 24k on E-bay. Other cars from this era---- ex. Camaros, Trans-am’s and mustangs in poor shape are selling in the 30-50k range."
Now weather what he said about value being right or wrong isn't the point. He was jsut a youngster and we were awful hard on the bever ward. Now he is going to think Pantera guys are cratchety old farts.
"Unfortunately I have received a very negative response from your community. I have received e-mails that are hateful, posts from people who don’t want to wait for a response. Someone offered me 10k for it and told me that’s the best offer I’ll ever get….. meanwhile a Pantera that is totally dismantled without an engine sells for 24k on E-bay. Other cars from this era---- ex. Camaros, Trans-am’s and mustangs in poor shape are selling in the 30-50k range."
Now weather what he said about value being right or wrong isn't the point. He was jsut a youngster and we were awful hard on the bever ward. Now he is going to think Pantera guys are cratchety old farts.
quote:Originally posted by DeTom:
Now he is going to think Pantera guys are cratchety old farts.
Did you mean me?
quote:Originally posted by jeff6559:quote:Originally posted by DeTom:
Now he is going to think Pantera guys are cratchety old farts.
Did you mean me?
Jeff you didn't do anything, neither did I. In fact I think most of it probably went down in email that we were not privy to. But you and I got lumped in with the guys who were harrasing him because, after all, we are Pantera owners, even though we didn't do nothing. It is a black eye on everyone who identifies themselves as Pantera guy. Now this guy is gonna go back to wherever he hangs out and say to them "You know the differance between a porcuopine and a Pantera? Nope, Well with a Porcupine the pricks or onthe outside." Then his corvette buddies, or austin martin buddies, or corrola buddies, whatever, are gonna laugh their asses off and assume all Pantera guys are pricks.
Detom, I think he woill get that on any board or group (human nature). I think it's better here then many places; certainly better then a few places/Marques I can think of (without naming them, like Ferrari, I didn't say that). I can see the guy on a Ferrari board "Mister, if you can't aford to hire a mechanic, or to purchase a $100k car you have no business mingling with us!"
I didn't say that did I.
I didn't say that did I.
No matter how much money I manage to accumulate, even if I became the richest man in the world, I would never, ever join a ferrai club or associate with those people. I would maybe buy up every new ferrari and set them on fire on tv maybe. BUt ever since a salesman was a snotty little shit to me one time, I knew right then and there, Ferrai people are conceited dickheads.
Detom,
We are all adults here .... sometimes the truth hurts ... people tell us the truth all day long .. life is not a bowl of cherries ... if we hurt his feelings because he wants to get 35k for a car ( and I read the posts ) " interior deteriorated badly "... " The engine is locked up" .." We're looking at getting about 35k " ..." Unfortunately I have received a very negative response from your community."
We are not pricks by no means, he just wants a lot of money for a car worth what our other Pantera memebers offered him .. maybe 10 -20k MAYBE !
We are all adults here .... sometimes the truth hurts ... people tell us the truth all day long .. life is not a bowl of cherries ... if we hurt his feelings because he wants to get 35k for a car ( and I read the posts ) " interior deteriorated badly "... " The engine is locked up" .." We're looking at getting about 35k " ..." Unfortunately I have received a very negative response from your community."
We are not pricks by no means, he just wants a lot of money for a car worth what our other Pantera memebers offered him .. maybe 10 -20k MAYBE !
Ron we are adults but he wasn't. He was just a kid.He wasn't even 30 yet.