Skip to main content

Are there any performance/valvetrain longevity gains to be had by enlarging lifter bores and bushing for AMC/Chrysler lifters. Are these lifters even compatible. Any modifications to the lifters involve? Example George's recommended "Cobrajet Cam". If one is bushing the lifter bores anyway then why not?
Original Post

Replies sorted oldest to newest

Perhaps beneficial in a race engine where accelerated valve train wear is not an issue. But I don't see anything of value in going from a Ford flat tappet to a Chrysler flat tappet in a street motor, especially if we're considering hydraulic tappets.

Keep in mind the larger diameter tappet bushings will protrude further into the oil passages and restrict the oil pssages more.
Last edited by George P
Pro cam grinders recommend 0.904OD (Chrysler) or sometimes even 0.921OD Pontiac lifters for huge aggressive roller cams, since the larger lifters necessarily have larger wheels and can use higher cam lobe accelerations. They are heavy so figure that in when you buy valve springs and pushrods. And they absolutely demand a custom-ground cam; big lifters are not a drop-in power gain!

For the street, there are a couple of advantages: when one has a block machined for oversized lifters (or bushings), most shops can also correct factory misalignments in the lifter bores (at extra charge). But remember- you're redesigning the whole camshaft system here, even for more sensible hydraulic roller cams, so proceed cautiously (with an open wallet) and take the advice of your chosen cam grinder!

If you have a stock 351-C block that you've lost your heart to and it has worn lifter bores, bushing the bores back to stock (with corrected geometry) can also minimize oil pressure losses during running. Bronze bushings (as George said) run much smaller oil feeds than stock, which allows more oil at the bearings with a stock pump- always a good thing. And if your shop is very careful, the bushings can be built to protrude up slightly above the cast iron bosses so as to allow the use of a high-lift aftermarket cam without poking the lifter's oil band out of the top of stock non-roller lifter bores. If this happens, it causes massive oil pressure drops. So one might not need a weaker reduced-base-circle cam, with the bushings. But not all lifters will work here.

Interestingly, SBCs use stock 0.842"OD lifters and THEIR 'speed secret' used to be to install 0.875" Ford lifters on custom cams!
A read of the Jesel catalog (available for free by merely going to their website) extols the virtues of large diameter lifters, and the associated larger diameter rollers in almost every one of their offerings.

Their catalog is a work of art (even if there a bunch of irritating misspellings) - the pictures of their offerings are super.

But from where I sit - their offerings (and modifications to existing blocks for similar systems), are either:

a) Needed by the top 5% of the motors out there

b) Needed because the owner has the "need" for them.... either to have an awesome setup, to be cooler than their buddies, to have something unique, or because they think they need to get that "belt and suspenders" reliability.

My guess is that unless this mod was done using equipment and skills of the highest quality, it could actually increase cost, and reduce reliability.

It seems like it is chasing a 2% increase in performance and spending 5-10% of the engine build cost to achieve it.

But I may be way off base.

Check out the Jesel "Cartridge Lifters". They sound very cool.

Rocky -

Add Reply

Post
×
×
×
×
Link copied to your clipboard.
×