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aerostar window motor upgrade

C cuginiflyerMember
I have reviewed the older posts on this topic and I am looking into doing this conversion on my car. Here is what I have learned so far. The 4 lug Aerostar motor was discontinued by Ford long ago. And, all of the reman companies that I can find no longer offer the original casting in a 4 lug configuration. The original casting is needed because it offers the clearance required to clear the original lugs on the regulator. It appears to me that the 3 lug motor ( which is abundant ) has its 3 lugs in the same position as the 4 lug, but is simply missing the 4th lug. It may be possible to fashion a strap to create a new hold down in place of the missing lug. Has anyone tried this or does anyone have any updated info on this topic?
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panteradougpanteradougMember
Got them out of a 93 sho. Fit right in like the Aerostar. However, I have a feeling that the motors are like pretty much generic for Ford.

When you get them turn them upside down and make sure that powdered rust doesn't come out of it.

I THINK that I have a spare one in the shop...ah...somewhere. If fact I know I do...but where?

If you are being paranoid about this I could go look for it and eventually I will find it. Then I could shoot you a pic.

You do not need to be a German Rocket Scientist to do this swap. It is pretty easy.

You can email me at hammer-99@optonline.net if you like. Just don't send me no stinking spam ok?
Pantera 3rd&LastPantera 3rd&LastMember
I used the Taurus motors as per Bill Taylor’s article on PP. I purchased remanufactured motors at O’Reillys Auto Parts for around $40 each. It was not worth my time to rummage a junk yard for questionable motors. Plus the remans were lifetime warranted.

Bill’s install was not hard, even for me the “Mechanically Challenged”

My 2 Cents now worth ½ of 1 cent. Smiler
Jeff
liv1sliv1sMember
I have done a window conversion on my car using Aerostar motors. I have helped do two other motor conversions since then on my friends' Panteras using Taurus motors and I have to say that the Taurus conversion is way simpler. There are currently two Taurus motors for sale on ebay for $11.99 each BIN.
Here are the links :
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...fPartsQ5fAccessories

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...fPartsQ5fAccessories

However way you go, you will thank yourself for doing the conversion. Important to note is that it's very important you remove and replace the mounting spacers(washers) carefully. You will save yourself the headache of trying to lining up the window class/runners on reassembly.

Good luck.
joulesjoules"Racing is Life, anything before or after is just waiting" - Steve McQueen
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Originally posted by David B:
With the Taurus conversion, aside from better speed, does the window go ALL the way down?


David,

Short answer is NO, not if you just do the motor swap. However, at the same time you can grind a few bits and make the window go all the way down. Follow instructions at Mike Daileys website; http://www.panteraplace.com/page188.htm

Julian
demopuardemopuarMember
Vader install -- simple.

It will not, however, fix any problem with a sticking window or warped channel. Make sure that the window goes up and down easy first, and then do this install or the PanteraPlace fix.

Honestly, the Vader windows work great; and the reason for the cost is because of the special tool that was purchased to make the new motors work with the Pantera window channels. Yes, the windows go down all the way with the Vader system -- and very fast too I might add -- but it is all good.

Mark
T tomsealbeachMember
My driver side window has never worked (since I bought the car at least)...there have been too many other more important projects so it went to the bottom of the priorities. But I am getting through the big items so it would be nice to have a working window...I replaced the switches with new bosch switches and it still doesn't work...any thoughts? Is there somewhere else I should look or is it a bad motor?
J jb1490Member
Tom,

If the fuse is good and the switch is wired correctly, then it could be a broken gear, bad motor, or bad wiring.

If the motor hasn't been run in a very long time, the grease on the worm gear shaft will harden (or the shaft rusts). This increases the torque required to rotate the shaft, and the stock motors don't have much torque. With the door panel removed, try rotating the rubber motor coupling by hand. Try both directions to see if it will free up. If it won't rotate, then you will need to remove the window regulator from the door and remove the gear cover.

John
mangustamangustaMember
If the Taurus/Sable or Aerostar motors use the 3 plastic drive pins inside the gear as fail safe points (shear under load....safety?) and yours are bad, I sell these on ebay for repairs. See my auctions under seller id Fastmerc, or drop me an email..... I use them in a number of my own cars which all have power windows, front and rear! Six pins with shipping is $9.

Beware of other vendors selling hardware store nylon stand offs as OEM parts....ugly pictures that do not let you see that what you are getting is not an automotive part. They probably work, but when you can get the right parts for less money....wouldn't you?

Steve
C cuginiflyerMember
I looked at link contained in LIV1s response and it looks like the Taurus uses a 3 lug setup. I was trying to avoid cutting off the raised lugs on the regulator as called for in the Taurus revision so that I could have the option of reversing the modification. Here is what I have found out about 4 lug versus 3 lug Aerostar motors( Keep in mind that the Aerostar conversion calls for a 4 lug motor ).I have found that there are no more 4 lug units available for the left hand door ( I have even made direct contact with the rebuilders rather than distributors ). But, I have found the 4 lug motor for the right hand door. Does anyone know if the right hand motor can be rotated and used on the left door in this revision?
joulesjoules"Racing is Life, anything before or after is just waiting" - Steve McQueen
There are two versions of the Taurus motor install, Chris Difani's method mounts the motor at 90 degrees to the original, thus you don't have to cut off the original motor mount. IMO it also makes the whole unit more compact.

Find Chris' article in the Dec 2008 PCNC newsletter, here;

http://www.panteraclubnorcal.c...rticles/News0812.pdf

Julian
mangustamangustaMember
Does anyone have a picture of the innards of the drive gear area once you take the little round clip off of the center gear shaft and lift the gear out????

Now I'm really interested in knowing if my window repair pins will work in these motors too!!! ...without having to go to a junkyard and do exploratory surgery....

Thanks!
Steve
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