I too run a Ford 13 inch though with a k&n and a drop base. The 13 inch size is quiet nice fitting under a late screen and getting a decent sized filter height.
Yea, that looks like a combo of wrong or bent parts or something. The center screen should be bent and sit inside the u-channel that is attached to the firewall. Maybe it is hitting something up front preventing it from moving forward enough.
@Panterapatt, could be. Is it difficult to remove the whole screen? I can only see two nuts holding it down in the back. (Towards the window)
It just lifts out if the two bolts in back are removed.
The center screen should only be held in place by two fasteners (dzus fasteners on the later models, and screws on the early ones).
There should be more fasteners further forward on the screen… if there are more holding it in, it’s definitely non-standard!
(Actually, I don’t think those holes on the corner of the screen are “standard issue”). Generally the center screen just screws onto the two side covers with four screws or Dzus fasteners.
Rocky
@BrianH posted:Thanks Larry, that's helpful. Go back and look at my pictures. the screen on my car is longer than the places to mount it. As a result it rattles since it's only fastened down by two screws in the back. I'd be happy with a screen that fits the space properly...
you need to use a firm foam rubber striping that is thin and fits between the screen and the side piece notches. That will stop the rattles.
@Panterapatt, ah, good one. I have something that will work I think...still thinking about just doing something else...
Does anybody know where I can get another of those screens? I'm not even sure what to call it...
Center engine cover. Post in the parts wanted topic. Make sure you specifiy what year you are after.
The owner who did the mod didn't go into much detail as to why the cover is longer. Do a search for 2811.
@BrianH posted:Does anybody know where I can get another of those screens? I'm not even sure what to call it...
Mike Mayberry (king) has a lot of Pantera parts and is a member on here and sells some of the parts on EBay or any of the vendors(PI Motorsports, Pantera Performance, Hall Pantera, Pantera Parts Connection, Pantera’s by Wilkinson, Full Throttle Pantera’s).
Before you buy anything I think we need to determine exactly what engine covers are currently on your car.
by your VIN number your car should not have an outside fuel door. But in the post by the previous owner which you recently commented on, the photos show an outside fuel door.
I strongly suspect this is where your fitment problems are coming from.
I think a previous owner converted your car to an outside fuel door, and the left-hand engine cover is not original to your car, or to the flat center screen
if I were you, at this point I would remove all three engine cover pieces, take good photos of each piece, especially on the edges that meet the center cover, and the edges at the rear window, and post those photos for our evaluation.
or you can buy a replacement center screen and then find out your problems are all connected to the left hand engine cover
Larry
@Larry. It is indeed an outside fuel door. Also, the scoop itself presses right up against the glass and sits very tight on top of the distributor, it's a snug fit. I suspect compromises were made to use the scoop...
If your distributor is the large cap, MSD ready to run distributor, that distributor is well known to not fit properly in a Pantera. It was a bad choice in the first place, and an even worse choice to actually install it.
A stock small cap dual point distributor, a small cap Duraspark distributor, a small cap Mallory Unilite distributor and a small cap MSD distributor will all fit correctly
once you get the center screen removed please give us a photograph of your distributor. Some of them with a large cap can be converted to a small cap
as for the scoop hitting the back window, 😳😳😤no wonder the center screen is shoved too far to the rear.
BTW, an earlier post by Alasorsa actually asked if the scoop was hitting the rear window. I know this is all new to you Brian, and you know we are all trying to help you. That being said, it would’ve saved a lot of back-and-forth in this thread if you had checked the fitment of the scoop when alasorsa made his post. Just saying…..
it is hard for us to productively help you when our suggestions are overlooked, and when pertinent information is only disclosed as the thread progresses
with this new information I would suggest you detach the scoop from the screen and then see how all three engine cover pieces actually fit when they are able to be positioned where they belong.
Larry .
And in Dave2811's "Bee magnet-topic" it was mentioned that the scoop was made to hide the MSD 8350, so be prepared to swap the distributor as well.
-Sami
@Larry, it is an MSD 8350. And believe me, I REALLY appreciate every word of encouragement or correction along the way. As I have said, I am not very mechanically minded and have never worked on my own cars. But I am just dumb enough to buy a car that really needs someone who CAN do their own mechanical work! I'll take it off and post some pictures...I know I can at least do that...:-)
Brian, I looked at the ProvaMO registry pics of your car. There are old pictures of it at PI Motorsports without the Mustang scoop. The screen is already longer than the side panels and appears to be loose in the picture. Just an FYI. Looks like it evolved along the way :-)
here's a screen shot (pardon the pun)
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Whenever I meet a new owner, I often welcome them with something along the lines of….
you are now the new owner of a misunderstood, rust prone, Italian hot rod. Pantera ownership is almost always destined to be somewhat troublesome. But all the problems have functional solutions. Welcome to the club, misery loves company. 😁😁
Larry