My plan was to have it painted by this afternoon!
I'm a little behind
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Mark I'm a little behind you, mine is all scraped and now I'm on to removing the Tar residue. What did you use to finsh cleaning the tar ??? I scarped for two days the entire rear of the car. Next I think carb cleaner ?? then wire wheel and sand. I ahve a little rust to fix on one side.
Ron
Ron
I scraped heavy tar
I used the 4" makita with wire brush for light tar removal
Then I used aircraft paint remover & scraped and hit it with wire brush a little more.
Special thanks to Bill (lastpushbutton) for this information, see his post for waterless paint removal on this PI board
On the wire grinder wheels I had better luck with the heavy duty twisted wire wheels.
Most of the time I was grinding the car but twice it was grinding on me!
Also be carefull use eye protection as the little wires come off that wheel like little darts they don't hurt much but you wouldn't want one in your eye.
Mark 6808
Its coming along good but I signed up for the track event in Vegas for May so now I have a dead line to get her track ready. It won't be no show car but should be a blast to drive.
I used the 4" makita with wire brush for light tar removal
Then I used aircraft paint remover & scraped and hit it with wire brush a little more.
Special thanks to Bill (lastpushbutton) for this information, see his post for waterless paint removal on this PI board
On the wire grinder wheels I had better luck with the heavy duty twisted wire wheels.
Most of the time I was grinding the car but twice it was grinding on me!
Also be carefull use eye protection as the little wires come off that wheel like little darts they don't hurt much but you wouldn't want one in your eye.
Mark 6808
Its coming along good but I signed up for the track event in Vegas for May so now I have a dead line to get her track ready. It won't be no show car but should be a blast to drive.
I have to say I tried EASY OFF and it losened the tar bt was hard to clean up everything else. Then just sharpened a 11/2 scraper and work fine but my arms are sore. But thanks you reconfirmed my thought of the twisted wire wheel on the grinder. Did you use a cup wheel or 4" striaght. I experimented with some old starter fluid and it worked wonders. I have two old cases and may try that before wire wheel only because it evaporates. But thanks for the tips and good luck.
Ron
Ron
I used the cup style wheel
You can pick up aircraft paint remover at auto paint store, worked pretty good.
You can pick up aircraft paint remover at auto paint store, worked pretty good.
When I did mine, I found that the undercoating chipped off quite nicely (and easier to clean up than wet tar). My final clean-up was with lacquer thinner which easily removed the tar and did no damage to the wonderful lime green paint underneath.
I found that old tooth brushes were useful in tight corners. The thinner evaporates quick and you get a nice buzz off it to boot!
I found that old tooth brushes were useful in tight corners. The thinner evaporates quick and you get a nice buzz off it to boot!
Mark,
Exactly, first the easy off only removed what looked like the first layer. Then the scraper seemed to do it real nice. I tried some old cans of starter fluid on a small spot and yes it cleans up nicely. Funny thing though, I found undercoating over bear metal in many places, not the true white original color. Was this the process they used in preping the car NEW ?? very surprizing not much rust.
Ron
Exactly, first the easy off only removed what looked like the first layer. Then the scraper seemed to do it real nice. I tried some old cans of starter fluid on a small spot and yes it cleans up nicely. Funny thing though, I found undercoating over bear metal in many places, not the true white original color. Was this the process they used in preping the car NEW ?? very surprizing not much rust.
Ron
Hey Ron,
When I removed all of my undercoat, I too was surprised at the total absence of rust. I did not, however have any bare surfaces. Maybe they took an early cappuccino break when they were painting yours and forgot to finish some spots!
One thing that I was also pleased about (and a good reason to strip all that crap off) is to find that there had never been any accident repairs either.
I never tried starter fluid before, but it sounds more expensive than laquer thinner (even though I only used a few cups).
Here's mine "almost" clean...
When I removed all of my undercoat, I too was surprised at the total absence of rust. I did not, however have any bare surfaces. Maybe they took an early cappuccino break when they were painting yours and forgot to finish some spots!
One thing that I was also pleased about (and a good reason to strip all that crap off) is to find that there had never been any accident repairs either.I never tried starter fluid before, but it sounds more expensive than laquer thinner (even though I only used a few cups).
Here's mine "almost" clean...
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and another... Oh, the black spots are where I scraped through the paint and used a one-step rust protector to seal the metal.
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... then some primer, some filler (to hide the rivet dimples and the strap tabs I removed), some textured black paint (I wanted a quasi-stock look), shine up the old ZF, spray the block... and TA-DA! you're done! Sure sounds easy now...
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Um, you know white is the new black, right? 
So let me do you a big favour and take that oh so too shiny black lump off your hands and replace it with a much duller and more modest white lump... No, eh? Would it help if I told you that dirt looks much more at home in my engine bay?... Scratches don't show as well?... Oh well, maybe when I re-do mine in ten years it will look as nice as yours... probably not.
So let me do you a big favour and take that oh so too shiny black lump off your hands and replace it with a much duller and more modest white lump... No, eh? Would it help if I told you that dirt looks much more at home in my engine bay?... Scratches don't show as well?... Oh well, maybe when I re-do mine in ten years it will look as nice as yours... probably not.
somthing tells me after all he has been through he won't be giving up 6808 too quickly. if ever..
Bob (pan2502) your right, NEVER!
Mark, just send me the check book to your home equity line, stand back, and Wa La before you know it, yours will be TOO shinny also
Mark Menson, how is the paint coming? Stick to it brother, and don't rush it, I know Vegas is around the corner, but Vegas 07 will be here before you know it.
Regards Mark
Mark, just send me the check book to your home equity line, stand back, and Wa La before you know it, yours will be TOO shinny also
Mark Menson, how is the paint coming? Stick to it brother, and don't rush it, I know Vegas is around the corner, but Vegas 07 will be here before you know it.
Regards Mark
Mark C.
While I was in the fender well wiring my #$@ off Iwas thinking of the time I was in Rome and it was about 3pm and everything closed and I couldnt find a bite to eat until 9 pm at night. I figured they decided to send mine to America and it was good enough. No really found all of the undercoat over bare metal. No white paint and no primer. Good in a way I guess. I'm in the rear fender wells and by the weekend in the engine compartment. I figured I may hire a south american friend to bring this project with in schedule.
While I was in the fender well wiring my #$@ off Iwas thinking of the time I was in Rome and it was about 3pm and everything closed and I couldnt find a bite to eat until 9 pm at night. I figured they decided to send mine to America and it was good enough. No really found all of the undercoat over bare metal. No white paint and no primer. Good in a way I guess. I'm in the rear fender wells and by the weekend in the engine compartment. I figured I may hire a south american friend to bring this project with in schedule.
6808 real pretty what did you use for paint. I'm thinking some thing real durable like urethane ???
Mark,
I used to paint cars in my younger years, nice job.
I used to paint cars in my younger years, nice job.
6808 looked good even in primer!
I took the car to my flakey painter for filling holes, smoothing, and satin black paint in the engine compartment. My other car that was suppose to take three month for paint is still there after a year. I told him he only has a week with the Pantera and he said it would be done in two days. Will see on saturday .
I like painting engine compartment to body color but I'm just not sure the car is going to stay yellow for more that a few years. So satin black it is for now
I took the car to my flakey painter for filling holes, smoothing, and satin black paint in the engine compartment. My other car that was suppose to take three month for paint is still there after a year. I told him he only has a week with the Pantera and he said it would be done in two days. Will see on saturday .
I like painting engine compartment to body color but I'm just not sure the car is going to stay yellow for more that a few years. So satin black it is for now
I'm debating, the car is black and was just painted. it was damaged in transportation from calif to ny, then I did upgrades to all the bumpers and filed all the holes. so they painted most of the car black again. I;m debating to go black flat or gloss. or orange. I like that new orange LAMBO color aroura borialous metalic. but the right way is strip the whole car ? I thing that might be another project for another car. ?? LOL
Mark M. I think your making the smart choice painting it satin black, especially since you don't know what color your going with. Mine was a no brainer, the whole car was in primer, and it only made sense to color match the enigine bay.
Good Luck with the "flacky" painter, I feel your pain. I think they should wear thier fresh air systems more.
ACCobra, it's a never ending process, fix one thing, and another want or whim pops up. I almost choose the LAMBO color myself, and like you, that will wait for another car also.
Regards Mark
Good Luck with the "flacky" painter, I feel your pain. I think they should wear thier fresh air systems more.
ACCobra, it's a never ending process, fix one thing, and another want or whim pops up. I almost choose the LAMBO color myself, and like you, that will wait for another car also.
Regards Mark