I enjoyed reading the history and origin of the Pantera International car club and PI Motorsports. Very enlightening and informative. Just a great read. One thing I've noticed, when George explains something, he always explains himself with great clarity and detail, and has this uncanny knack for making the story interesting.
As for Lui's comments, I happen to agree that the Pantera at PI Motorsports was so severely modified that it is almost offensive. In my view its painful to see a Pantera altered to that extent. But I don't blame the Adler's or the Sackett's for carrying out what the customer requested. If a customer comes in with a load of money and wants to modify their Pantera, its not for PI Motorsports to judge. PI Motorsports, like any other business enterprise, is in business to make a profit. That heavily modified Pantera helps pay the bills and keep PI Motorsports in business. While I'll bet that the owners of PI Motorsports in their private moments shake their head in horror at the monstrosity that the customer requested they create, on the other hand I am sure they are grateful for the business.
What are you going to do, some people have better taste than others.
David #9465
I agree with alot of what has been said. I also dont like the mods done on either the yellow car or the Audi replica.
The problem is that its always subjective. Obviously the customer wants their Pantera that way so they are having it done.As a shop owner I would not do the work they are having done, prophet or no you will be always tied to that car. They should have patted the customer on the back and said (customer name here)"**** I see what you want to do here but it will look like ass and you should re think it a little bit." (Apologies to the mod if that statement was too harsh)
Saying the design is bad but the workmanship is good is like saying "She's got a great personality."
At the end of the day it doesn't look good no matter how nice the welds are.Workmanship alone can not save a bad design or concept
There are a few modded cars on here that fall under the great talent /poor design category.
Very few can pull it off, one exception in my opinion is Macman. His car is brilliant . Well designed and well executed.
I also cringe when I hear "Pantera based custom"
If you dont want a Pantera then why did you buy a Pantera?
Tangent: Lambo doors should only be on a Lambo and 24 inch wheels dont belong on any car.
I am done now.
The problem is that its always subjective. Obviously the customer wants their Pantera that way so they are having it done.As a shop owner I would not do the work they are having done, prophet or no you will be always tied to that car. They should have patted the customer on the back and said (customer name here)"**** I see what you want to do here but it will look like ass and you should re think it a little bit." (Apologies to the mod if that statement was too harsh)
Saying the design is bad but the workmanship is good is like saying "She's got a great personality."
At the end of the day it doesn't look good no matter how nice the welds are.Workmanship alone can not save a bad design or concept
There are a few modded cars on here that fall under the great talent /poor design category.
Very few can pull it off, one exception in my opinion is Macman. His car is brilliant . Well designed and well executed.
I also cringe when I hear "Pantera based custom"
If you dont want a Pantera then why did you buy a Pantera?
Tangent: Lambo doors should only be on a Lambo and 24 inch wheels dont belong on any car.
I am done now.
I could see it if someone was converting a neglected Pantera into a modern one like the proposed new one or one of the Pantera concept cars. 
But to turn it into a replica of another manufacturer like they do with VW Beetles and Pontiac Fieros? NO!!!
But to turn it into a replica of another manufacturer like they do with VW Beetles and Pontiac Fieros? NO!!!
Then there are the truly visionary souls who convert a Pantera to a Fiero ...
There must be those that are totally embarrassed that it is only a Pantera and need to turn it into something else to hide their humiliation?
Dr. Frankenstein slowly raised his eyebrows starring into space he contemplates , the next step is to cut the roof off, flip it around, turn the ZF upside down and it will be a front wheel drive put a coffin (Cord) hood on what now will be the front, run the exhaust out the back through the corner grills, have the brake lights pop-up when you apply them,and just a couple more small revisions, a rumble seat in the old front trunk an air bagged eight inch lift kit, and duel propellers in what was the front grill.
FRANKENSTEIN MEETS WATER WORLD.
FRANKENSTEIN MEETS WATER WORLD.
quote:Originally posted by Wade:
Posted by Wade:
I agree with 73pantera. There are several Pantera concept drawings with visionary designs that would give the owner a unique vehicle that may also have an opportunity for investment value down the road. Some of these designs have had some distribution in the public domain and may therefore capture the imagine of today's youth.
I know Evans has his own version that he would like to build if someone brought their checkbook.
I'm confident that an exercise like that would have wider support of the Pantera community and that would also support resale.
Although, I suppose if you have enough money to throw away....
I know Evans has his own version that he would like to build if someone brought their checkbook.
I'm confident that an exercise like that would have wider support of the Pantera community and that would also support resale.
Although, I suppose if you have enough money to throw away....