A friend is considering buying this car. It looks good for the price, but maybe something does not show. What is the plumbing surrounding the intake? Nitrous? Nothing is indicated about that in the description.
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For sale by Beverly Hills Car Club. Is the VIN available?
Just tell your friend to be cautious. It's at Beverly Hills Car Club, and that place has a great inventory, but also a sordid history. I know they're trying to fix that image a bit, but I would absolutely not pay a dime without having it inspected by a Pantera specialist first.
Vacuum lines...
BHCC relies heavily on photos to portray a car and they minimize verbiage. When they get a car that runs well, they add the phrase "mechanically sound" and this car is described as such. They really went out on a limb and wrote that the car "is ready to be driven and enjoyed". They do not allow test drives but they encourage and support professional inspections. I have found them to be no nonsense and nice people.
I am not far from BHCC and would be willing to there and help you guys understand the car better.
I like the specialized Calif. plates- PANTY. More than likely with that fuel system the car probably runs very quirky but sure looks bad ass. NO air filters. I'll bet 20 bucks the A/C won't work. Looks like a So. Cal. car so, probably doesn't have much cancer. Steve lives up there, he could check it out. The price seems not to unreasonable but, you can spend alot of money fixing stuff real quick. I learned the hard way. Can you believe how much just tires cost? MY car is for sell and it's dialed in, ready to drive.
Steve,
My friend is very interested in your offer to look the car over, and willing to pay you something for your effort. His name is Warren Harlow, familyair@gmail.com, a former Pantera owner that's sorry that he sold his car a few years ago. This car looks fairly good and the price in line with cars of its general condition. A firsthand look would be fabulous.
Thank you,
Tom
Donny,
My friend Warren, that's interested in the red Pantera, knows Panteras well and likes the look of that car, Webbers, upsized wheels, California car, etc. He is prepared to spend the extra money to take care of the visible issues. If Steve is willing and able to look the car over, unknowns may be put to rest and a sale is likely immediately.
Please tell me something about your car.
Thank you,
Tom
so, can anybody tell me what all the plumbing is about on the intake of the red Pantera? Is it Nitrous? It has standard fuel lines running to each carb.
Below you see the Weber setup from the red Pantera with all the extra plumbing, and my Pantera with its Webers.
What can anybody tell me?
Those are vacuum lines to operate the brakes.
Pretty sure it is nitrous. Nitrous systems have plumbing for the nitrous itself along with additional fuel that is powered by spereate electric fuel pump. The arrow on the lower left shows a large fuel line coming from the pump to a distribution block that reaches to nozzles on all eight ports. The arrow on the right points to the nozzle in for cylinder #1 or #2. I don't see the plumbing for the nitrous, only the fuel, but it has to be there. I put this type of nitrous system on a boat a while back.
It is probably best to remove this nitrous system. It is not difficult to take it out. The holes in the intake manifold ports for the nozzles are tapped and can be easily filled with pipe plugs.
But, to Forest's point, it could be vacuum for the brakes. If so, it is pulling vacuum from each intake port?
And upon further study, the large line going to the distribution block looks too big for fuel and is more likely for the brake booster.
And, finally, it looks like he used nitrous plumbing as booster plumbing. It is creative and well done.
Now that I think about it, Nitrous would have two nozzles per runner, one for fuel and one for nitrous. So, like forestg wrote, it's most likely for power brakes.
I overcame the need for this much extra plumbing by installing a vacuum pump up front. Works super.
Tom, I just tried to email Warren but familyair@gmail.com came back as undeliverable. Please ask him to email me at sbuchan@hotmail.com
TO much to type on my car. If the other car ends up being a big steamy pile of Ka Ka and If your interested call me @
619-977-0677
Tom, PM sent.
Nitrous needs to be tuned, too. I remember autocrossing against such a Pantera at a big meet a long time ago. Nitrous was not allowed in the series but he swore not to use it, so we didn't force him to remove the bottle. After getting beat a couple of times, midway through his last run the engine suddenly made a LOT more noise, accelerated like a rocket and spun off the course and into a fence.....
Donny,
Your car has had good mods and looks great. Do you have the deck screen that fits over the motor? Is it a California car? I understand you might be asking 129K. Seems fair.
Steve,
Just to be nosy, what's the verdict on that red Pantera with Webers? I'd like to see Warren in a Pantera again. He has two beautiful Vettes, and his wife has a C8. Good people.
Tom
