My Pantera project that I received a year ago now has fresh plumbing for the EFI. There are no leaks. However, the gas tank vent releases fuel vapors. I think most of us just run a section of rubber fuel line from the vent and down the inside of the gas tank shroud to the bottom of the car and call it a win. I am wondering if any of you are trying to contain the vapors into a charcoal vapor canister (a new one, not our 50 year old units). With 8 stack EFI there is a bit of a challenge to purge the vapors into the engine upon startup. I suppose the purge line could go to one of the velocity stacks. Maybe it would need a valve on the purge line that only opens when the engine is running. Your input on this is appreciated.
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Steve - I removed the charcoal canister and plumbed the line into the air cleaner which is also connected to the valve cover breather (not the PCV)
You could also probably just plug the vent hole and just use a vented cap.
Does a vented cap let air/vapor in and out?
@panterapatt posted:I removed the charcoal canister and plumbed the line into the air cleaner which is also connected to the valve cover breather (not the PCV)
8 stack engines usually have both valve covers plumbed to an oil separator/breather since there is no shared plenum with vacuum for a PCV. The oil separator is probably not a good option for the vent tube.
I run one and it’s vented to the atmosphere. You can actually make your own canister, it’s very simple.
Can you smell fuel around the gas cap when the car has sitting for a while? What did you do with tank vent outlet?
No smell whatsoever. The tank vent outlet is connected to the Canister, the Canister is vented to the atmosphere, that’s it.
Sorry Steve, I forgot to mention that I have a fuel cell in my car. Does your tank vent outlet have a valve in it or is it open? If it does have a valve it should be okay, as long as it vents to atmosphere.
cool video!!
My car has the factory tank and vent. There is no hose on the vent yet. I have the engine bay 1/4 window glass out at this time and you can smell fuel vapors at the window opening.
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Then I would simply connect a hose to it and be done. There are lots of vapors that come out of the open hole in your tank
@hightech posted:
Clever video. I see he has the same paint booth setup as me.
I ran my breather hose all the way to the back of the car And attached a fuel filter on the end… I installed the grill over the holes, which were originally for the L bumper, and on the left side, the vent tube right behind it on the right side, the coolant overflow.
because fuel vapor is heavier than air and made a trap like you have in a toilet… A low point where it can collect in and it goes up again..
well, I don’t have any smell..👃
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Steve, I am going to use an old fuel filter and fill it with a carbon filter, basically the same thing as the PVC one in the video. If you want to go a more professional route, take a look at www.vaportrapper.com
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FWIW, I deleted the stock charcoal cannister when it fell apart inside. They only have about a 10 yr lifespan, but any Ford cannister '67-up duplicates it. I ran the hose from the tank vent directly to the air cleaner, using a small NAPA foam filter inside the cleaner body. The filter also acts as an anti-backfire device for those cold morning starts. No fumes at all, but of course I'm running a Holley carb.
I also replaced the stock fuel tank vent with one Gary Hall used to sell that is also a bolt-on anti-rollover valve, and it's hose bib is smaller than the stocker's so I needed to change hose size anyway. The anti-rollover valve was another DOT safety mandate for '82(?) and up U.S. passenger cars & pickup trucks.
Gary used a stock '80s Ford vent/valve with a ring-adapter to allow bolting it onto a stock Pantera fuel tank. Once you drill out the stock valve's pop-rivets, you find the tank boss holes are metric threaded. DeTomaso listed an anti-rollover vent/valve for wide-body Panteras, but it was large, in four pieces and 40 years ago the parts sold for $300! Hall's compact legal plastic valve sold for $29.