I do not know this car.
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Has it been harassing you?
Michael
Michael
No there are not Panteras on the track in the Dallas area.
Am I the only one who doesn't understand this post ??
quote:Am I the only one who doesn't understand this post ??
Add me to the list too, Paul.
And remember, we want photos of your car after it arrives down under.
Larry
quote:Originally posted by LF - TP 2511:quote:Am I the only one who doesn't understand this post ??
Add me to the list too, Paul.
And remember, we want photos of your car after it arrives down under.
Larry
Ha ha , Trust me, when I get to see it in the flesh, the world will know !!especially with what I have planned for it.
quote:Originally posted by Cyboman:
Has it been harassing you?
Michael
I did not understand this? I am at the track a lot and well....???
It was a joke. Usually when someone is concerned that they don't know someone it's because they keep popping up and are stalking or harassing them.
I didn't understand your initial post either, but I couldn't resist. I figured that you would open the post up and explain a little better what you were posting, because I and others still don't know what it is.
Are you interseted in buying this Pantera, or are you alerting the board that it is for sale, or is it something else?
Sorry you didn't get that I was kidding.
Michael
I didn't understand your initial post either, but I couldn't resist. I figured that you would open the post up and explain a little better what you were posting, because I and others still don't know what it is.
Are you interseted in buying this Pantera, or are you alerting the board that it is for sale, or is it something else?
Sorry you didn't get that I was kidding.
Michael
I thought it was funny 
Michael,
I got it. I needed a good laugh the day I read it.
thanks,
I got it. I needed a good laugh the day I read it.
thanks,
Just letting folks know. Sold my Pantera.
quote:Pantera/WRX
Posted October 25, 2007 09:19 PM Hide Post
Just letting folks know. Sold my Pantera.
Owned a Pantera and a WRX.
Let's see, does this mean you sold the exotic, timeless, true performance GT and kept the see-about-40-a-day, never-to-be-a-collector-car rice burner?
quote:Originally posted by LF - TP 2511:quote:Pantera/WRX
Posted October 25, 2007 09:19 PM Hide Post
Just letting folks know. Sold my Pantera.
Owned a Pantera and a WRX.
Let's see, does this mean you sold the exotic, timeless, true performance GT and kept the see-about-40-a-day, never-to-be-a-collector-car rice burner?
Oh oh, sounds like your in trouble !!
quote:Originally posted by LF - TP 2511:quote:Pantera/WRX
Posted October 25, 2007 09:19 PM Hide Post
Just letting folks know. Sold my Pantera.
Owned a Pantera and a WRX.
Let's see, does this mean you sold the exotic, timeless, true performance GT and kept the see-about-40-a-day, never-to-be-a-collector-car rice burner?
Yes it does and I am proud to say. I have a day time travel job, classic car app biz, and am the co-owner of Apex Driving Academy. I am at the track running at least twice a month. My STi will smoke most Panteras in a straight line and on the track. I know everyone thinks I am talking smack. Not true. I speak the truth. Ask some of the Dallas folks that have been next to my car on the road.
Yes the Pantera is almost timeless and I will always love it. My Pantera was just sitting. I tried many times to drive it more than a few times a month and it just did not happen. I hate when cool cars just sit! So I put a price on it and got it.
So I have a great daily driver in the STi and a turbo spec Miata with 308 at the wheels for the track.
My Pantera was a great car and I would love to own a GT5S some day. Until then I will stick with my exotic beating rice.
So with that said. Anyone want to bring there car to MSR is Cresson TX and prove me wrong??????
quote:Anyone want to bring there car to MSR is Cresson TX and prove me wrong??????
A track you drive everyday?? A track you give lessons on?? Hmmmm, you should be able to beat Shumaker driving a formula one car with you driving a yugo blindfolded on that track. How about we race down my driveway? That would be more fair. Whoever can drive down my driveway the fastest without skidding off and falling down the mountain wins. And no skid marks on my driveway ok? My wife makes me try and scrap them off and it don't work real good.
Hrmm an STI and a Pantera, You really can't compare them. And that is exactly why I bought a Pantera. With a wrx or simular style car you have to show off, just to get noticed, otherwise you blend in with the crowd. With a Pantera you just have to be there to be noticed.And if you start it up and drive it that is a bonus ! It is like hot rodding,the slower you cruise, the faster you look !
You can't really compare early 70's technology to late 90's technology, 2 completely different leagues.
I am not having a dig at you, it is just the comparasim is not there. old school classic, versus, pop, hit for a day. it's the same with music.
You can't really compare early 70's technology to late 90's technology, 2 completely different leagues.
I am not having a dig at you, it is just the comparasim is not there. old school classic, versus, pop, hit for a day. it's the same with music.
It is very true they are apples to oranges. My problem is I love most cars. I am in the track stage of life. The fact the STi is ugly and boy racer with the wing does not mean much to me. It is great on the track. I have gone through two wing gaskets. Which at high speed it is working or I would rip it off the back.
The Pantera is timeless and most of the folks that own one remember them when they were new.
Well todays kids to 30 somethings grew up playing these cars on video games. They will be at high end auctions in coming years.
This is all coming from the fool that put a Ford EFI on his Pantera and it worked great.
The Pantera is timeless and most of the folks that own one remember them when they were new.
Well todays kids to 30 somethings grew up playing these cars on video games. They will be at high end auctions in coming years.
This is all coming from the fool that put a Ford EFI on his Pantera and it worked great.
quote:Originally posted by DeTom:quote:Anyone want to bring there car to MSR is Cresson TX and prove me wrong??????
A track you drive everyday?? A track you give lessons on?? Hmmmm, you should be able to beat Shumaker driving a formula one car with you driving a yugo blindfolded on that track. How about we race down my driveway? That would be more fair. Whoever can drive down my driveway the fastest without skidding off and falling down the mountain wins. And no skid marks on my driveway ok? My wife makes me try and scrap them off and it don't work real good.
I have a day job and would love to drive the track every day. The driving school is a hobby job.
But you have a V8 and I have rice. It should be easy for you to catch and pass me.
quote:Originally posted by v8capri:
Hrmm an STI and a Pantera, You really can't compare them. And that is exactly why I bought a Pantera. With a wrx or simular style car you have to show off, just to get noticed, otherwise you blend in with the crowd. With a Pantera you just have to be there to be noticed.And if you start it up and drive it that is a bonus ! It is like hot rodding,the slower you cruise, the faster you look !
You can't really compare early 70's technology to late 90's technology, 2 completely different leagues.
I am not having a dig at you, it is just the comparasim is not there. old school classic, versus, pop, hit for a day. it's the same with music.
If you think the cult following for Panteras is greater than Subaru you may be very surprised.
I love the look on the drivers of Astons and F-cars as I pull away from them.
It is a bang for the buck thing. Much like the Pantera.
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Let's see, does this mean you sold the exotic, timeless, true performance GT and kept the see-about-40-a-day, never-to-be-a-collector-car rice burner?
Muscle cars are valued at way to much today because all the guys that wanted them or had them want them again. Their kids are getting our of college and they are now able to buy the Chevelle again. BTW all you old farts can kiss it. Why is a Nova or a Duster over 15k? Scary.
All the kids and 20 somethings love EVOs, STis, and American Muscle.
Brock Yates said at BJ auction that he never thought Jap cars would ever go across the block.
So wrong. Wait until the first rally race car sells. It will be the same thing in 30 years with EVOs, STis, SVT Cobra, and R32s.
Find and STi and go drive it. You will want to bring it home.
Let's see, does this mean you sold the exotic, timeless, true performance GT and kept the see-about-40-a-day, never-to-be-a-collector-car rice burner?
Muscle cars are valued at way to much today because all the guys that wanted them or had them want them again. Their kids are getting our of college and they are now able to buy the Chevelle again. BTW all you old farts can kiss it. Why is a Nova or a Duster over 15k? Scary.
All the kids and 20 somethings love EVOs, STis, and American Muscle.
Brock Yates said at BJ auction that he never thought Jap cars would ever go across the block.
So wrong. Wait until the first rally race car sells. It will be the same thing in 30 years with EVOs, STis, SVT Cobra, and R32s.
Find and STi and go drive it. You will want to bring it home.
Classic rice !! haha , at least it won't rust away !! you got me there !!
enough said, we all have opinions.
If you don't get it, you won't get it.
enough said, we all have opinions.
If you don't get it, you won't get it.
OK, I can't take it anymore.
I'll race my Pantera against any '72 Subaru you can find.
Your Subie has 35 years of technological advancement behind it...turbo...all wheel drive...highly developed suspension. It would be like me challenging a '37 Alfa. Same number of years of advancement. Golly, sounds like a reasonable comparison to me.
If you want to race an exotic sports car...why don't you challenge an all wheel drive Gallardo? Or better yet, hang on to your WRX until 2044 and go out and whip them all. I'm sure it will be no challenge.
I get the same grief from ricers who have to tell me how their new Suziki Calimari can dust my '41 Knucklehead.
I know the cool from the fool.
I'll race my Pantera against any '72 Subaru you can find.
Your Subie has 35 years of technological advancement behind it...turbo...all wheel drive...highly developed suspension. It would be like me challenging a '37 Alfa. Same number of years of advancement. Golly, sounds like a reasonable comparison to me.
If you want to race an exotic sports car...why don't you challenge an all wheel drive Gallardo? Or better yet, hang on to your WRX until 2044 and go out and whip them all. I'm sure it will be no challenge.
I get the same grief from ricers who have to tell me how their new Suziki Calimari can dust my '41 Knucklehead.
I know the cool from the fool.
quote:But you have a V8 and I have rice. It should be easy for you to catch and pass me.
Not on my drive way. It is too narrow and steep and cliff like drop off all around it. No way. We have to go one at a time and use a stop watch. Besides you would use more barke than engine. Heck we could use soap box derby cars and get about the same times.
I can understand and appreciate where Pantera/WRX is coming from. In my day (80's), it was all Mustangs, IROCs, and Grand Nationals duking it out (I had an '86 Mustang GT myself). These cars handled much better than the outgoing muscle cars, and no foreign car could out accelerate them. We often put these cars to shame. Even the mighty big block Chevelles, and such, had more power, but they couldn't hook up, so they would lose. That's a perfect example of how better technology (tire and suspension) wins out.
Times change and the current trend is to four bangers because they perform, and they're more affordable. They also cost less to modify. Some kid in a Honda Civic wanted to race me on the highway not too long ago... and he was serious! It looked as if this car had no shocks and springs they way it was bobbing, and I swear I could park my Pantera in his tailpipe! It was so loud, I almost couldn't hear my car. There was too much traffic, so I didn't even consider it, but apparently he didn't care.
Alot of these cars today would smoke the stars of the 80's, but MOOSO is right. Who knows what technology will be in cars even 10 years from now that will make the cars of today just another rung on the automotive evolutionary ladder! That doesn't mean we won't still love, desire, and appreciate our relics, it means we will for what they are.
Michael
Times change and the current trend is to four bangers because they perform, and they're more affordable. They also cost less to modify. Some kid in a Honda Civic wanted to race me on the highway not too long ago... and he was serious! It looked as if this car had no shocks and springs they way it was bobbing, and I swear I could park my Pantera in his tailpipe! It was so loud, I almost couldn't hear my car. There was too much traffic, so I didn't even consider it, but apparently he didn't care.
Alot of these cars today would smoke the stars of the 80's, but MOOSO is right. Who knows what technology will be in cars even 10 years from now that will make the cars of today just another rung on the automotive evolutionary ladder! That doesn't mean we won't still love, desire, and appreciate our relics, it means we will for what they are.
Michael
Oh, and by the way Pantera/WRX, did you resolve those issues with that black Pantera?
Michael
Michael
[QUOTE]Originally posted by mooso:
OK, I can't take it anymore.
I'll race my Pantera against any '72 Subaru you can find.
You are correct Sir. When I had the Pantera I told everyone to bring what ever 1971 car they wanted and I would kill it.
That is why I said ther are apples to oranges. Not 35 years ot tech is not fair.
I am not a vette fan at all. When I drive a Z06 I tend to become one. They are great cars. I would not want a 70s or 80s vette ever. The new ones have made me think about them.
OK, I can't take it anymore.
I'll race my Pantera against any '72 Subaru you can find.
You are correct Sir. When I had the Pantera I told everyone to bring what ever 1971 car they wanted and I would kill it.
That is why I said ther are apples to oranges. Not 35 years ot tech is not fair.
I am not a vette fan at all. When I drive a Z06 I tend to become one. They are great cars. I would not want a 70s or 80s vette ever. The new ones have made me think about them.
quote:Originally posted by Cyboman:
I can understand and appreciate where Pantera/WRX is coming from. In my day (80's), it was all Mustangs, IROCs, and Grand Nationals duking it out (I had an '86 Mustang GT myself). These cars handled much better than the outgoing muscle cars, and no foreign car could out accelerate them. We often put these cars to shame. Even the mighty big block Chevelles, and such, had more power, but they couldn't hook up, so they would lose. That's a perfect example of how better technology (tire and suspension) wins out.
Times change and the current trend is to four bangers because they perform, and they're more affordable. They also cost less to modify. Some kid in a Honda Civic wanted to race me on the highway not too long ago... and he was serious! It looked as if this car had no shocks and springs they way it was bobbing, and I swear I could park my Pantera in his tailpipe! It was so loud, I almost couldn't hear my car. There was too much traffic, so I didn't even consider it, but apparently he didn't care.
Alot of these cars today would smoke the stars of the 80's, but MOOSO is right. Who knows what technology will be in cars even 10 years from now that will make the cars of today just another rung on the automotive evolutionary ladder! That doesn't mean we won't still love, desire, and appreciate our relics, it means we will for what they are.
Michael
I do miss my 93 Cobra almost every day.
quote:Originally posted by DeTom:quote:But you have a V8 and I have rice. It should be easy for you to catch and pass me.
Not on my drive way. It is too narrow and steep and cliff like drop off all around it. No way. We have to go one at a time and use a stop watch. Besides you would use more barke than engine. Heck we could use soap box derby cars and get about the same times.
Vespas at dusk!
quote:Originally posted by Pantera/WRX:
... and a turbo spec Miata with 308 at the wheels for the track.
Umm...did EVERYONE miss this part?
quote:So with that said. Anyone want to bring there car to MSR is Cresson TX and prove me wrong??????
I would gladly prove you wrong with my "other" car, but I don't get to "Goat Hump" TX too often. If you would like to come over to Arroyo Seco, I'm your Huckleberry...
quote:
I would gladly prove you wrong with my "other" car,
Oh, look, a VW with flares!
quote:Originally posted by LF - TP 2511:
Oh, look, a VW with flares!
Oh...Ha, ha, ha, ha...
if I had a dime for every time I heard that.
I don't know the level of preparation you have in your WRX but I suspect a mildly updated Pantera wouldn't have much trouble with a Subie on track. Since you talk about the WRX as your everyday car I'll assume it not some trailered monster. Were talking apples and oranges here. A Subie is a high strung Japanese econobox. The turbo and all wheel drive are nice but it's not a Supra or a NSX. I'm not suggesting that the WRX isn't a modern car with all the technology and development and electronic nannys that comes with that but I do feel obligated to defend the Pantera brotherhood here. I'm on track fairly often with the EVOs and WRXs so I can compare times. I also drive my car to work 7 or 8 months of the year. I'd take you up on a friendly offer to compare the two against each other except I'm in the midwest. With not a lot of money a Pantera is still decent sportscar. Certainly not in a class with the GT2s, Z06s and Vipers but much better than a Subaru.
quote:Originally posted by DannyOcean:quote:Originally posted by Pantera/WRX:
... and a turbo spec Miata with 308 at the wheels for the track.
Umm...did EVERYONE miss this part?
Why is that hard to believe and why would you laugh at it. The turbo spec Ms we build are one second slower on than a Porsche cup car on the track at MSR. Sorry it is true. Look for a Turbo Spec series real soon.
quote:Originally posted by DannyOcean:quote:So with that said. Anyone want to bring there car to MSR is Cresson TX and prove me wrong??????
I would gladly prove you wrong with my "other" car, but I don't get to "Goat Hump" TX too often. If you would like to come over to Arroyo Seco, I'm your Huckleberry...
Goat hump is 20 miles of Ft Worth. If you know where that is.
Bring it!
quote:Originally posted by korina:
I don't know the level of preparation you have in your WRX but I suspect a mildly updated Pantera wouldn't have much trouble with a Subie on track. Since you talk about the WRX as your everyday car I'll assume it not some trailered monster. Were talking apples and oranges here. A Subie is a high strung Japanese econobox. The turbo and all wheel drive are nice but it's not a Supra or a NSX. I'm not suggesting that the WRX isn't a modern car with all the technology and development and electronic nannys that comes with that but I do feel obligated to defend the Pantera brotherhood here. I'm on track fairly often with the EVOs and WRXs so I can compare times. I also drive my car to work 7 or 8 months of the year. I'd take you up on a friendly offer to compare the two against each other except I'm in the midwest. With not a lot of money a Pantera is still decent sportscar. Certainly not in a class with the GT2s, Z06s and Vipers but much better than a Subaru.
I have an STI and it has mild bolt ons. Im my opinion both cars are great. There are not even close on the track. Yes you can make both fast on the track. My Pantera with a Modern EFI and new suspension set up would not touch my STI on the track. Sorry maybe I suck at driving a Pantera.
I am not raggin on Panteras they are great for what they are.
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That is rice!
[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]That is rice!
quote:Originally posted by Pantera/WRX:quote:Originally posted by korina:
I don't know the level of preparation you have in your WRX but I suspect a mildly updated Pantera wouldn't have much trouble with a Subie on track. Since you talk about the WRX as your everyday car I'll assume it not some trailered monster. Were talking apples and oranges here. A Subie is a high strung Japanese econobox. The turbo and all wheel drive are nice but it's not a Supra or a NSX. I'm not suggesting that the WRX isn't a modern car with all the technology and development and electronic nannys that comes with that but I do feel obligated to defend the Pantera brotherhood here. I'm on track fairly often with the EVOs and WRXs so I can compare times. I also drive my car to work 7 or 8 months of the year. I'd take you up on a friendly offer to compare the two against each other except I'm in the midwest. With not a lot of money a Pantera is still decent sportscar. Certainly not in a class with the GT2s, Z06s and Vipers but much better than a Subaru.
I am not raggin on Panteras they are great for what they are.
quote:Originally posted by Pantera/WRX:quote:Originally posted by Pantera/WRX:quote:Originally posted by korina:
I don't know the level of preparation you have in your WRX but I suspect a mildly updated Pantera wouldn't have much trouble with a Subie on track. Since you talk about the WRX as your everyday car I'll assume it not some trailered monster. Were talking apples and oranges here. A Subie is a high strung Japanese econobox. The turbo and all wheel drive are nice but it's not a Supra or a NSX. I'm not suggesting that the WRX isn't a modern car with all the technology and development and electronic nannys that comes with that but I do feel obligated to defend the Pantera brotherhood here. I'm on track fairly often with the EVOs and WRXs so I can compare times. I also drive my car to work 7 or 8 months of the year. I'd take you up on a friendly offer to compare the two against each other except I'm in the midwest. With not a lot of money a Pantera is still decent sportscar. Certainly not in a class with the GT2s, Z06s and Vipers but much better than a Subaru.
We run on a tight track and it does not have huge straights.
I am not raggin on Panteras they are great for what they are.
quote:Originally posted by Pantera/WRX:
That is rice!
A TT Porsche 993 GT-2 is "rice" and a WRX isn't?
Take your boyfriend and cruise the Miata to happy hour at the Rainbow Room, rice-boy. You obviously know nothing about cars.