Know anyone interested in buying a real CSX4000 Cobra in Ontario?

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Originally posted by Denis C:
Does anybody here know of someone who might be interested in buying a real CSX4000-series Shelby Cobra? CSX4995

A guy I know in Toronto is trying to sell his quickly on AutoTrader (current asking price is $95,000).

This is an extremely rare car in Canada. From what I can tell based on the 2008 Shelby world registry, it's one of only eight CSX4000s in Canada.

This specific car is painted solid black; is equipped with a 500+ hp Keith Craft-built 427 side oiler, a 4-speed toploader and 3.54 rear end; and has only 600+ miles on the odo. Apparently the car is properly VINed in Ontario as a 2009 model "kit car" and is Drive Clean exempt.

I have no association with the seller, but would like to help ensure the car gets sold to another Canadian because if it gets exported, it won't be allowed back into the country.

The car is listed on AutoTrader (ad #16-AVS9279947) -- http://www.autotrader.ca/used_cars_C...ributes=photos -- and the seller has listed his cell number as contact point.

Is it fiberglass or aluminum? Oh and the link doesn't work.

With that low of a rear end ratio, hard to imagine why the builder did not use a 5 speed transmission at the minimum, better yet with a 6 speed. Would be interesting to know what the engine is tacking at a conservative 120mph, doubt that car could run 150mph and not be at redline......Mark.

A toploader 4th is a 1:1, so he'd be running 5300 rpm at 120 and a top speed of 150 at 6500 rpm.

The Toploader with a 3.54 is pretty common in Cobra circles, although a 2.88 final would have been better for top end speed.

Julian

it's a fibreglass car -- supplied to Shelby Autos by HST Automotive in Mexico
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90K for a fiberglass CSX4000 car is a fair deal at best. recently an unpainted aluminum CSX4000 car with an iron 427so sold for 92k in California, that was a deal.

I can get a brand new fiberglass car, painted, needs engine and trans for $52k. How is this anywhere near a reasonable deal?

Are you sure it is a fiberglass car? For that money, it should be an aluminum car with the body made by Kirkham Motorsports. If it is a real Shelby continuation car, it is not fiberglass -- I am unaware that the great litigator (Shelby) would ever authorize such a (wrong) type of car to be built as one of his continuation cars. It would be doubly crazy to put a toploader and a real 427 side oiler in a fiberglass car -- but then again; I guess I really should not talk.... never mind......

I just looked at the ad again, it says nothing about a fiberglass car -- so for that money, and if it is really a Shelby CSX continuation car, then yes, it is most definitely an aluminum built car. I know for a fact that Kirkham provided Shelby with frames and alunimum bodies. I know the bodies came in either steel, or stainless steel. So for the money, it is a lot of car for what is being asked. Someone is going to get one heck of a car if it is aluminum -- if the frame is stainless steel -- wow, real deal there. Here is Kirkham's website if anyone is interested in looking up what they do -- very impressive:

Kirkham Motorsports

Enjoy!

That would be a fiberglass continuation car. Sean Hyland motorsports(Shelby mod shop)in Ontario has brought a few in. Rolling chassis cars are around $50,000 from most Shelby dealers. There are ways of bringing the continuation cars into Canada.

Cheers,

Wade

There are no SS Kirkham chassis frames. You are misinterpreting what you have read.

Fiberglass Shelby continuation Cobras sell for about $52,000 US without an engine or transmission.

I believe that the aluminum body puts $35,000 on top of that.

The aluminum bodies are made in Poland of all places by a former Soviet block aircraft defense contractor. They built MIG fighter bodies.

Kirkham buys from them and imports them into the US.

The new bodies are in fact too good compared to the originals since they use CNC equipment and the English just banged the bodies out over wooden bucks by hand.

Initially SAI (Shelby) was building their own frames and fiberglass bodies. I think that they have given that up and buy them from Kirkham now?

So that price would be a pretty good one for an aluminum body CSX continuation car but not so good for the 'glass car.

Incidentally the 'glass cars are pretty nice too.

In the US the cars are coming with an MSO letter or origin which says they are 1965 Cobra model cars. That relieves them of any responsibility for complying with any EPA or DOT requirements put in place after that model year.
They also come with new Goodyear racing tires.

Either one of them is more then just a little bending of the rules but it ain't me who's gonna blow the whistle on anyone? Of course this is just how the US deals with it and my guess is that it would be easier to import the car into another country as a used car already titled here as a '65. It's value is going to be as a Shelby Cobra and not as a "kit car".