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Thank you panterapatt.  Seriously thank you.  I had gotten my previous two rear ones from TireRack for almost $1,200 a piece.  With tax and shipping I know I paid well over $2,400 just for the rears.  The fronts I found just ONE on line for $700.  That is why I was saying $3.6K for all four corners.  Now I see that is obviously a rip off.

Lucas Tire has them both in stock for the price you stated.  Did I say thank you?

Just spoke with Andrea Roin over the phone.  A nice guy.  Ended up ordering a set of gold colored Campagnolo Gr4 wheels from him, two for the front (10x15) and two for the rear (14x15).  Saved myself approximately $2,400 by ordering directly from Roin rather than going with Mr. Fiat.  I feel bad a little, because David at Mr. Fiat was such a nice guy.  But holy crap, $2,400 difference is a lot of dough.

So Roin's direct price was 980 Euros for the front (about $990 today's exchange rate, and 1280 Euros for the rear $1293). So total $4,566 plus shipping.  6 - 10 weeks from order to delivery.  I already got a new set of tires waiting for them too.

Again, thank you everyone for your input and guidance.  Couldn't have done this without all of your help.

Sincerely,

Fuzz

Thank you.  Yes, that is correct. I believe 10x15 up front and 13x15 in the rear.  285/40/15 Pirelli P7 Corsa Classics up front and 345/35/15 Pirelli PZero in the rear.  I bought the Corsa Classics from England because, at the time, I could not find any Centurato P7 tires mentioned earlier in this post.  The Corsa tires are borderline track only tires, with minimal threads...mostly slicks, however they are street tires (summer ultra performance).  But the car is never driven in the rain anyway.  They pick up every little pebble on the road.  But man, do they ever grip the asphalt.  Somehow - and I don't know how - I don't have a single stone chip behind the wheels.  Or anywhere else actually. 

OK, so my order was confirmed today by Andrea Roin.  He will let me know when it is ready for delivery, at which time I will pay him.  He did not need/want any money or deposit up front, which surprised me.  Given the dollar amount, I would have been happy paying him half up front just so he knows I am not a fake customer.  Since these wheels are made to order, I know I would have wanted half or all of the payment up front.

Again, once received and installed on the car, I will post photos.  Can't wait...

Yes, I did get my P7s.  I ordered one from Lucas, because when I called, the fellow who answered said he has only one in stock, and didn't know when he would get another one.  So I ordered the one he had.  Ten minutes after I ordered it, I looked on Craigslist to see if any are on there.  Now you need to know I NEVER shop on Craigslist, so I don't know what possessed me to check it.  But a set of four (two front, two rear) P7s were listed there by another Pantera owner named Randy.  He said the tires were only a few months old, and sent me photos of them, which seemed to confirm that.  So I took a chance and bought all four, including shipping, for $1,000.  Then I promptly called Lucas back and cancelled my order without any issues.  He said he had not processed my order yet, so there was nothing to cancel from his end.  And when the tires that I bought on Craigslist arrived, I was dumbfounded because they looked like they had never been installed on a wheel.  Don't know what the date codes are on them, but I will check them.  I just know they look brand new.  I will post new photos as soon as I receive the wheels and install them on the car.

I hope everyone had a great Christmas and New Year's.

OMG, the $hit I have gone through with U.S. Customs and UPS to get these wheels delivered is making me lose my hair.  Communication with them is at or near zero, with them just sending me an email saying I owe duties on these, but they do not provide any information on how to pay it.  They claim they have left me a voice message, but after days of phone calls they admitted they do not have my phone number or email...so how did they leave me this message???

UPS has been marginally better.  They would not release the packages until $41.66 in fees are paid.  Note that I already paid $500 for shipping.  but get this, they provide no way in their email or website for me to pay this fee.

Multiple phone calls and days later, I found a phone number through which UPS will accept these fees, and was just able to pay this last $41.66.  Now they claim they will release the shipments and deliver them to me...but they don't know exactly when.

I suspect U.S. Customs will send me a bill.  Years ago my wife bought a Ferrari wallet for my birthday from Italy for $400 (it was an online purchase on Ferrari's website).  About a month after I received the wallet the U.S. Customs sent me a duty fee of $187 to be paid to them for the wallet.  Based on that ridiculous experience, I am scared to think how much extortion money they are going to get out of me for these wheels.  Sometimes I feel the MAFIA runs our government.

Sorry, I am having a bad day over this and I am venting...

Hopefully the wheels will arrive undamaged and will look great on the car.

I'm surprised UPS isn't being more specific as to what the $41.66 is for. Normally, prior to the shipment arriving, you'll get an itemized invoice from them, for duty, taxes and brokerage. UPS allows you to pay it in advance, so the shipment is pre-cleared through Customs and comes straight to you without delay. Obviously, UPS knows what the rate of duty is for automotive wheels but $41.66 seems like too small an amount. Perhaps that's just for the brokerage fee. Here's a tip: get the shipper to write the word "vintage" on the invoice and make sure it doesn't say "magnesium" anywhere. I believe the duty rate is lower for vintage car parts (25 years old or older) and they might consider magnesium to be a hazardous material that requires special handling. Make sure the shipper puts your phone number and e-mail address on the invoice too.

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