Mangusta Front Truck (Frunk) panels

There are a few photos buried in this thread (see my posting there, the photos don't show as thumbnails or anything) which might help - - https://pantera.infopop.cc/top...210#1598208435080210

A lot of the surfaces ARE directly covered with cloth, the big exceptions of course being the front and the bottom which are fitted with the trimmed aluminum panels.   If that link doesn't work I'll try a diffent way!  Regards, Nate

Thanks Nate I’ll take a closer look. I did a search that thread but quickly and saw the lower panel (which thankfully I have) it’s the shape of the side pieces.

thanks again

cheers

The pieces over and behind the radiator pictured here...both in steel. The felt is thinner than Pantera (the heavy Pantera felt will look luxurious but wrong...). It probably was a salt-and-pepper look.

The cap over the radiator is not flat, it is cupped. The piece behind the radiator may be flat (not all cars had the recess formed for what looks like a tire, but was never where the spare went).

 

Thnaks Lee, so looks like I have most of the panels but am missing the two side pieces, you don't have photos of those too do you?

@v8jet posted:

Thnaks Lee, so looks like I have most of the panels but am missing the two side pieces, you don't have photos of those too do you?

The sides are sort of formed in. If yours are missing I reckon they were cut out.

Greg Kalmes contacted me and is sending some photos of his pieces.  The PO has installed a fuel cell in front so I guess they may have got in the way.  Anyway, they have got emissing over the years!

Scifi, do you mean the small piece in green? You know, I've not even really noticed that before (!) But for example, the green car that was as BHCC a few months ago, the entire inner fender well seems to have been replaced without apparently a shock mounting...and that structure is all welded in.

I have the piece you've marked but not the larger piece! I'm also trying to figure out what function that small piece holds, seems a weird small shape to have there....??

Lee, thanks for those images!  I always assumed the radiator top cover was aluminum but your steel piece could ONLY be oem  Is that insulation material thinner than the 'normal' Goose bitumen/felt (~10mm?).

Also interesting to see the upholstery material that was used on that panel.....clearly that 'soft' woven fabric that is also found (for one example) on the underside of the Mangusta glove box.   Fwiw the exact same material was used on some early/mid 70s Ferraris but I it's hard to track down exactly.  I've heard it described as "woven felt" - -  a material that does actually exist, but seems very uncommon these days.  I bought a piece several years back which was a 'leftover' at a large felt company in PA.  It has the same feel but not the same obvious woven pattern.

It looks like the same woven material was glued at least to the rear bulkhead part of the trunk on 8MA1046 (your photo I believe).  I found the same material on 1010's large bottom trunk panel, underneath a different layer of fabric.  So on some cars (1XXX at least) this might have been the stock trunk upholstery material, although it doesn't seem to have held up very well against time!

Nate, thanks for the "woven felt" -- now I have a term to search for (!), last time after I saw the car I ordered simply black felt...M!ke looked at this with me, and yes, the same stuff is used there on the glovebox and the entire surface in the front trunk. It is thin (I remember less than 2mm) and yes, it is woven.

  Good eye on the bitumen over the radiator, it is 6mm--I'll probably end up with closed cell polypropylene foam there...Lee

@v8jet I am almost done with my front suspension and currently have all of my front panels removed, so of you need measurements or pictures, I'm happy to oblige.  FYI, I found Delphi ball joints that fit (with a bit of work) that I will detail in my build thread next week.

MH

(btw,  I met Gary, M!kes friend who then sold him 8ma898, when 8ma1046 was for sale and in my garage...Gary came with a group of friends to take the dimensions for the radiator cover. These frunk pieces seem to be like matched socks (always the first thing to get lost...). 

Yep, Gary had purchased a sheet of aluminum large enough, Lee loaned me his original and I traced and cut out the basic shape...  Then I marked where the "bumps" for the bleeders needed to be and cut a 2" hole in a piece of 2x6 and placed a cue ball under the sheet in that spot, aligned the 2x6 hole over it and went to town on the 2x6 to get the bumps...   Worked like a charm...  Then sprayed it with wrinkle paint and moved on top the next project.

Had to fab up a replacement for the missing piece the heater leaver goes through...  Traced-n-banged that out by covering Lee's original with painters tape, then transfer the tape pattern to a fresh sheet of aluminum, traced it out, cut and folded, then more wrinkle paint...

Lucky for us DeTomaso used a lot of simple patterns...

MH

…moral to the story—great to have friends who haven’t finished putting together their own car yet … 😊 (Nate has me thinking, oh, I need to really find the right kind of felt…)! Lee

Btw, another picture for 2 reasons (and dang me on the second)...

  - this is the closest-up I have of the "fabric" (lets avoid calling it felt Denis advice to just go to a fabric shop is probably the best).

  - the frustrating information is that that hardware used for the removable access door to the hydraulic reservoirs is available in our day. I say "frustrating" because even though I bought replacements a few months ago, I cannot remember the name of the (one, specific) company that makes these. I'll look for a receipt....I vaguely remember it being a British company.

 

@leea posted:

Btw, another picture for 2 reasons (and dang me on the second)...

  - this is the closest-up I have of the "fabric" (lets avoid calling it felt Denis advice to just go to a fabric shop is probably the best).

  - the frustrating information is that that hardware used for the removable access door to the hydraulic reservoirs is available in our day. I say "frustrating" because even though I bought replacements a few months ago, I cannot remember the name of the (one, specific) company that makes these. I'll look for a receipt....I vaguely remember it being a British company.

Can I add that the door you describe is one of the coolest parts of the car?

Because it has a little sticker that simply states the car is exempt from safety regulations. Wouldn't it be the fun to show it to a highway patrol officer in the event they hassle you over safety equipment?

I'm not running the pedal box or the door but I hope to install them at some point just to have the sticker. There is some lore circulating that suggests the genesis of the exemption; Mrs. DeTomaso allegedly had some connections with DOT which got the car through. I have never done any serious research on the topic... It may be a rumor.

OK sorry need to edit/correct this post!.... 'TENAX' is the correct spelling.  Parts may also have the markings 'GHE' and '33'.  Looks like they make a wide range of fasteners still....agree hardware must have been made in in the UK originally.

...I was thinking, starts with an "L," starts with an "L...."   and that only means one thing: I got the wrong parts "Please note that although these fasteners appear similar to the LOXX range, the two systems are not compatible..."

https://www.opas.co.uk/products/tenax-fasteners

Ps, Mangusta matches the "Porsche" Tenax, it seems.

@scifi posted:

Can I add that the door you describe is one of the coolest parts of the car?

Because it has a little sticker that simply states the car is exempt from safety regulations. Wouldn't it be the fun to show it to a highway patrol officer in the event they hassle you over safety equipment?

I'm not running the pedal box or the door but I hope to install them at some point just to have the sticker. There is some lore circulating that suggests the genesis of the exemption; Mrs. DeTomaso allegedly had some connections with DOT which got the car through. I have never done any serious research on the topic... It may be a rumor.

That would be rumor. I can’t recall but other manufacturers received similar limited exemptions in the late 60s early 70s

...and correct for the later cars is the sticker on the bulkhead glass (and on 8ma1046, still affixed on the windshield).