joea posted:Arizona looks better and better...
Been looking at Nevada, Reno, Carson City or Minden/Gardnerville!
Yeah cuvee posted:joea posted:Arizona looks better and better...
Been looking at Nevada, Reno, Carson City or Minden/Gardnerville!
Yeah but all the CA crap is somewhat balanced with the ocean coast and pretty good weather year round, then you have the beach thongs as well. Seems I will eventually have to convert to a Tesla though. Had my Panteras out yesterday all paranoid when I saw the gumshoes around. Shifted at 1,000 with those so they didn’t sound too unusual, although the cars bucked a bit shifting like that.
Arizona may not be looking better. Years ago in Phoenix I was driving a stock Torino Cobra and had just had the muffler replaced a couple of weeks earlier. I was cited for a noise violation. I went to court and the judge explained to me that Phoenix has no decibel limit and if you are cited for excessive noise then you are automatically guilty because it is the officers judgement. Same reason lawyers advise you not to take a roadside sobriety test. I got off without a fine because I could show the dated receipt from MIdas for the muffler installation two weeks prior to the stop. Last I heard Phoenix also has the "exhibition of power" law where you don't have to be speeding, just accelerating faster than the cop likes or chirp the tires.
cuvee posted:joea posted:Arizona looks better and better...
Been looking at Nevada, Reno, Carson City or Minden/Gardnerville!
It's a migration east, the folks here are tired of the way NV is going, the State is at the mercy of Vegas due to population growth. We now have Dem Governor and Senators, even Reno has become way too Lib, many people I know are heading to Idaho or Montana, but that'll open up some space here for a few more Californians who still think it's better than CA, but not for long as they are proving relocating isn't a cure for stupidity!
If you come to Reno, be aware we have smog requirements for newer than '67, no rolling 30 years, Carson city and south no requirement. I think we have the highest Highway Patrol officers per capita and they sure like to cite anything that even remotely looks like it goes fast!
George P posted:I have acquaintances who are members of LAPD, LA Sheriffs, Ventura Sheriffs, and Ventura PD. They have other things to do rather than enforce the vehicle code. That's normally the bailiwick of the CHP.
You guys complaining of enforcement in the Newport/Laguna/Huntington area, I'm curious is that CHP, Orange County Sheriffs, or local police?
I only have experience in Laguna with the local police. The city created their own noise ordinances, which are referenced on signs posted downtown and along PCH. I agree with your view George; CHP is typically the one who would check noise levels, tread depth, smog equipment, etc... more rare to get that treatment from city cops and (in my life experience) unheard of for a Sheriff to worry about those sorts of items (unless you were a real jerk during the traffic stop)
I just watched some Fargo last night & that’s even looking more attractive. If I happen to get pulled over for excessive or unusual exhaust noise I think then it’s really time to let go of my 3 Panteras in the best winner take all package deal because I just can’t deal with harassment too well. But until then, will cruise with the rest.
scifi posted:… I only have experience in Laguna with the local police. The city created their own noise ordinances, which are referenced on signs posted downtown and along PCH ...
Thanks for not ignoring me Ryan.
Local ordinances are something completely separate from the state vehicle code.
Is noise enforcement more of an issue in the cities of coastal Orange County or Statewide? Is it local police or the CHP that are performing the enforcement? If its only local police then complaints about the state of California are misplaced.
Jan in answer to your question, I don't perceive any noise enforcement taking place in Ventura. Every weekend Main Street in downtown Ventura is a constant parade of very loud cars and motorcycles … its been that way for a very long time. Nothing has changed … law enforcement is nowhere to be seen.
Since California is the great sanctuary State, why not make it a sanctuary for old classic cars? I bet if it was pitched as a special use tax or something like that, it might just gain some traction!