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Hello guys, I have been reading up on heating problems , but I am still puzzeld ( this happens a lot. the car is still overheating after changing the thermostat with a Robert shaw 180 correct orifice plate and a new waterpump flowcooler after the weiand failed. There is no bypass not on the weiand and not on the flowcooler ( witch is there only for warm up , right.... or not? I have the Original radiator witch I want to keep, coolant is changed and clear two sucker fans on the front of the radiator?? operating manually. The car runs fine, but the only time it was not overheating was when I drove it back from Sweden. Now I have been thinking the guy gave my some bothels of octane inhancer so I think he used them reguraley. Would this ad to cooling? I am using 98 octane gas at the moment, Would this be the cure for the problem or do I have to drill the bypass hole or do something else. Temp goes to more than 100 degrees at that point I stop the car. I am using coolant ready made. Any advice welcome, thanks Urbain.
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The Pantera NEEDS the bipass hole in the water pump. It will be ok on a Mustang but the Pantera system doesn't tolerate it.

What year car is this and what radiator in it?

You need the L radiator with the divided tanks.

If this is an early car, make sure the lower hose has the updated kit to it. The original tends to kink and cause flow problems.

Do you know the history of the engine? It is possible that you have a drag racing block in there where they used the block cement to close up the water passages to strengthen the block.

If you are sure that the cooling system is all ok, then it might just be that there is an internal engine problem?

Hope it's all a simple fix for you. Good luck.
Sounds like you have the '71 overheating blues?

Those cars are notorious for this.

The stock Pantera L radiator is fine if it is in good working condition.

The L radiator had the intake tanks separated internally to create a cross flow radiator. It modifies the stock radiator so that the top half is the intake and the lower is the exhaust.

Stock '71 does not have that separation and puts the intake and exhaust into the same tank. It needs to be modified to the L configuration. Any radiator shop can do this for you. It is not rocket science.

You probably have the stock '71 gooseneck connection to the water pump also. That had a factory (dealer) recall on it to modify it.

The original had just a hose that tends to kink and block the flow.

The recall puts a small goose neck pipe in the system there.

You also probably have the original four blade radiator fans? Those were changed to 8 blade fans for more air flow.

Some of the early cars also have a manual switch to turn on the fans. The later cars come on automatically when the coolant in the radiator reaches preset levels.

This is ALL early Pantera issue stuff that was all corrected with the L models.

You can debate all that you want to over what the thermostat should be. I put a 160 in. It is not going to compound your cooling issues. It will give you a little more leeway with the system.

"Those that refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it!" - Winston Churchill.
Totally agree with the other diagnosis on the 71 radiator issues. You can confirm what it is by using a laser infrared sensor to diagnose what is going on with your 71 radiator. Should be hotter at one tube and cooler at the other tube with a definite heat pattern to the radiator as well. If most of the core is cool, this is bad and an issue with the splitting of the radiator areas internally.

The other thing you could check is if you have a cracked cylinder head or a failed head gasket that is pressurizing the cooling system. There is a sensor that measures carbon monoxide in the engine coolant. I don't know what it's called, but this special sensor will detect carbon monoxide in the engine coolant.

Best of luck!!!!!

Mark
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