They may have both been added by a previous owner. I have never seen one on the dash before, and the clock was not factory. I believe Hall Pantera has been selling them for quite a while.
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A dashboard-mounted Veglia clock was definitely part of the 150 USA Panteras that contain GT in their VIN.
as far as European-sold GT models, the buyer could pretty much specify whatever they wanted on their individual build. I imagine the clock was installed on some European cars as well.
Larry
Larry,
What years were they?
This is likely how Claude Dubois ordered the car, along with the tan leather interior. Claude was the distributor for DeTomaso cars in Brussels. Below is the list of cars he sold in 1974. My car is last one on the list.
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This is the emblem from my S/N 1490, of which I am the original owner. It is metal and has mounting pins on the back, not studs.
John
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The USA GT cars were sold in 1974. The 40 GT cars that were sold in California were sold as 1973 models due to emission issues.
Larry
Steve,
Very interesting list. Thank you for sharing.
Why do the serial #s range from 2023 to 6973? Perhaps he was selling used or leftovers in 1974? I have 2036 which was assembled in July '71 as a '72 model.
Was yours a GT model?
I noticed now that the eary #s were Longchamps.
John,
Thank you for weighing in. Exactly the kind of history documentation I was hoping would be available on this site.
On the list Claude called my car a "Lusso" (same as L). It is not a GTS although it has some of the same features as a GTS. Mine came out of the factory with small chrome bumpers.
Again, very interesting. Shows that Alejandro didn't necessarily burden his European deliveries with the U.S. mandated features. Larry is probably correct in that the Europeans could have them manufactured any way they wanted. "Semi-custom" so to speak. I wonder if any of the European model engines deviated from the open chamber low compression U.S. models.