Progress pics of my Mangusta

Jay you are a man on a mission. That colour looks so rich on this car. Thanks for the update.

Denis

Hello JMM Your color is very much like mine on 8MA 1256.Pics attached.Good choice.Jerry

another pic of 8 MA1256. It was painted by a previous owner Paul Plese.

Since the pics were taken I bought another Mangusta and with the car came a beautiful set of original italian mirrors in a box.I have since replaced the mirrors on the car (modification of bolt holes all hidden,no repaint) and what a difference it makes! . When I get back down to Tempe I will take photos. Jerry

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Originally posted by mangustaman:
Since the pics were taken I bought another Mangusta and with the car came a beautiful set of original italian mirrors in a box.I have since replaced the mirrors on the car (modification of bolt holes all hidden,no repaint) and what a difference it makes! . When I get back down to Tempe I will take photos. Jerry

I'm glad to hear you are rid of the infamous "Pep Boys" mirrors! I was planning on Vitaloni Californians, stuck to the window glass with 3M body tape, but I have since seen a Yamaha Waverunner (!) with beautiful mirrors, and I may use them.

I never realized that silver based colors would look so spectacular on the 'Goose'. Beautiful. Thanks for posting. Maybe some day...

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Originally posted by mangustaman:
Since the pics were taken I bought another Mangusta and with the car came a beautiful set of original italian mirrors in a box.I have since replaced the mirrors on the car (modification of bolt holes all hidden,no repaint) and what a difference it makes! . When I get back down to Tempe I will take photos. Jerry

I'm glad to hear you are rid of the infamous "Pep Boys" mirrors! I was planning on Vitaloni Californians, stuck to the window glass with 3M body tape, but I have since seen a Yamaha Waverunner (!) with beautiful mirrors, and I may use them.

Yea they were pep boys $12 mirrors. Previous owner Paul was amazed that the Ferrari restoration shop(who bought the car for a client) let the car go out the door after a $178000 fully documented mechanical restoration with the mirrors still on.Well at least the mirrors were not glued to the front quarter window glass.I once sold a mangusta because the previous owner had glued(incredibly adhered stuff) crappy Dodge Omni mirrors to the glass and I did not want to take a chance on destroying the unobtanium glass removing them.That glass/frame/door area is such a beautiful piece of the design element that I think its a shame to obscure it with a mirror.Jerry

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Originally posted by mangustaman:
That glass/frame/door area is such a beautiful piece of the design element that I think its a shame to obscure it with a mirror.Jerry

I agree with you, my vision is to try to visually save that line by mounting a Californian up about 1.3 inch from the bottom, on the glass. The tape I plan to use is the same as emblems on newer cars, and can be removed with dental floss (really!)

But what do you think of those small mirrors on the waverunner? They are more Italian looking than a lot of Italian mirrors I have seen.

we'll see how the visuals work out. I just got done with 1 month in the paint shop to fix 6 tiny mirror holes, so my drill is staying in the cabinet for a while.

Jay

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Originally posted by mangustaman:
That glass/frame/door area is such a beautiful piece of the design element that I think its a shame to obscure it with a mirror.Jerry

I agree with you, my vision is to try to visually save that line by mounting a Californian up about 1.3 inch from the bottom, on the glass. The tape I plan to use is the same as emblems on newer cars, and can be removed with dental floss (really!)

But what do you think of those small mirrors on the waverunner? They are more Italian looking than a lot of Italian mirrors I have seen.

we'll see how the visuals work out. I just got done with 1 month in the paint shop to fix 6 tiny mirror holes, so my drill is staying in the cabinet for a while.

Jay

I have a 1963 Italia Omega that has holes for mirrors and was looking for attractive mirrors. I found many candidates at a motorcycle merchandise shop similar to the waverunner types. You might check there. I would not under any circumstances put anything on the window glass regardless of ease of removal. In fact I prefer the mangusta with NO MIRRORS AT ALL,just as yours is now. I would have removed the mirrors and filled the holes and repainted on 1256 but decided to just go with the new mirrors for now. I have 1 Mangusta (1126) with no mirrors/holes and love it.I dont mind using the interior rear view mirror plus physically turning and looking as I do that anyway .Of course if the beurocrats require it that is another story. In AZ they dont. Jerry

For those who want unblemished quarter window glass (Mangusta or Pantera), be aware that Dodge Omni mirrors were not glued onto the little Dodges' glass. The mirrors screwed to a thin triangular flat-black plate that was screwed to the inside lip of the door. The mirror hid most of that bracket and the fuzzy hid the rest. It should take most of 15 minutes for an average Pantera owner to duplicate a mounting plate from scrap aluminum or steel. Then the spontaneous debonding of glued mirrors that often happens, won't.
I use Dodge Omni mirrors with cable remote adjustments, but instead of making a metal bracket, I replaced the quarter glass with home made Lexan units, and drilled mounting holes clear thru the plastic. I also made contoured shims from scrap wood 2x 4s to get the proper angle for both myself @ 6'2" and Judy @ 5'4', but the mirrors have done fine for 20 years. Plastic quarter windows can be tinted at home just like sunglasses, to match the windows or windshield.

Here is a picture of a Silver Mangusta with a Vitaloni Californian. I am not sure how or exactly where it is attached.

In my view the two mangustas shown illustrate why the car looks sooo much better with no mirrors at all.They are fine for the pantera ( my pantera has them on the quarter window) but not for the mangusta. Its design is so elegant that any add on sticks out like a sore thumb. Just look at JMM's car a few posts back and compare to the two cars above Jerry

8MA1256 and 8MA1126 Is it better ..... with.....or without? Jerry

more comparison.

Jay!

Looking good!!!!!! I bet you must be getting itchy to get more parts on it!!!! Wow!!!

I'll be calling you soon to talk Goose! Need to get rolling on mine again..... I'm gettin' itchy palms....!

Ciao!
Steve

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I'm gettin' itchy palms....!

My Daddy told me itchy palms came from doing something other than the need to get rolling....

Esthetically, yes. Problem is, the mean ol' DMV in all States requires you to mount SOME sort of outside rear view mirror at least on the driver's side, in order to get a license plate & insurance. And simple self-preservation might also direct an owner that way if he intended to actually drive it on public roads. A racer or show car may get away with no mirrors (I think customizer Ed Roth's collection of outrageous car-thingys often lacked outside mirrors) but to me, that instantly marks such a car as a full-sized toy model, not an actual human-carrying vehicle. As far as Mangustas, I find those remote front fender-mounted mirrors are almost useless at detecting suicidal idiots or police close behind me. Form & function....

I happen to agree, designers often do not include the mirrors in their designs, but DMV, your safety, that of your car and that of others relies on the fact that the driver is seen and can be seen. So mirrors are essential.

Other item is the location and style of the mirror. Think small hot rod peep style mirror on window frame; would look out of place on this car. Forget the square style. 60's Mustang (or that of a F-246) chrome round style mirror mounted on door would not look agressive enough and stick out too much, 70's Mustang racing mirror mounted on door (with a lot of work) may look somewhat ok but too smooth for the car squarish edge look. The mirror of a F-345 mounted on the a pillar or corner of vent glass again would not look right.

I feel my Vitalone copies of 308 mirrors are a good fit for mine although their location on top of the fender (even if correct for the period) leave a lot to be desired (dates the car and poor rear view) and I will relocate them to the door when I will restore.

Denis

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Before I bought this Mangusta, I had made a few friends in the DeTomaso commmunity. Now that I have bought a Mangusta, I have made even more friends who want see pics.

When I bought the car, 8ma600, it had an 8 year old brand new paint job. I decided to fill in the little holes in the fenders for the Sebring mirrors. Then I decided to weld up the hole in the rear hatch where the power antenna was. Then there was a chip near one of doors....and a drip under the spoiler.....so while I was at it (famous last words).... we decided to paint the whole thing.

Since the car was completely apart, it was faster and nicer to just repaint every square inch than to mask off and blend panels. And of course a custom color change to more closely match the original was in order too.....

Jay; There is I believe a V-8 with downdraft Webbers in your garage?, can you please tell me about that motor, Thanks,.....Mark.