Neon yellow??? I can understand his concern.
Hey, what's wrong with yellow? The brighter the better 
Cheers, Tim.
Cheers, Tim.
I am liking the Lambo pearl yellow with black trim. I think that is going on my next wide body.
I'm a bit puzzled why some think that an original color is important. 90% of our cars are modified, bigger wheels, more power etc. Why pick an original color? You're never going to fool anyone into thinking it's an original car anyway. Those that could be fooled wouldn't know what an original color was anyway. And the Pantera orig colors are just a tiny subset of the colors out there.
My orig Camaro is original Ermine White. I hate white, but for that car there was no other choice of course. For my Pantera there's thousands of possibilities. Fear the worst!
My orig Camaro is original Ermine White. I hate white, but for that car there was no other choice of course. For my Pantera there's thousands of possibilities. Fear the worst!
I have no intention of painting my car the original color. IF that mattered, then I'd probably look for another car!!!
I say paint it whatever shade of pink polka-dot you wish.
(just having fun)
I say paint it whatever shade of pink polka-dot you wish.
(just having fun)
I bet you're going to shoot it in Ford Mystic paint - color changes depending on the angle.
I bet the color of the model changes depending on what angle you look at her?
Is that a massive front spoiler or what (on the car)?
About these changing paints, I've considered them, but I haven't found one where I like both hues, so that wont happen to my Pantera...
Is that a massive front spoiler or what (on the car)?
About these changing paints, I've considered them, but I haven't found one where I like both hues, so that wont happen to my Pantera...
Started going over the body to get the details right. Going over every curve and imperfection, I feel now I know that Pantera body better than a teenage boy knows the body of his first girlfriend 
Not much has happened this week. I've spent some hours aligning the right door better, welding the elongated holes etc. That actually made the alignment more difficult, so maybe there was a reason for the elongated holes? Still, it's compensating a problem instead of correcting it, that won't do!
Found a decent fit now. Now I need to take the door off, so I can grind of the last bits. Then it has to go on again, because there's no way the painter can get the straightening correct without the door in place to aim at. And after that it has to come off again when he paints it. And then, what I fear most, I have to put it on when freshly painted, without destroying the paint
As can be seen I don't have too much space either
Not much has happened this week. I've spent some hours aligning the right door better, welding the elongated holes etc. That actually made the alignment more difficult, so maybe there was a reason for the elongated holes? Still, it's compensating a problem instead of correcting it, that won't do!
Found a decent fit now. Now I need to take the door off, so I can grind of the last bits. Then it has to go on again, because there's no way the painter can get the straightening correct without the door in place to aim at. And after that it has to come off again when he paints it. And then, what I fear most, I have to put it on when freshly painted, without destroying the paint
As can be seen I don't have too much space either
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The elongated holes, indicating either they were ripped on impact or the guy aligning the door was paid not by the hour.
Doors have now been off, and I've sanded off all the paint I couldn't really get to when they were installed. I also did the crawl-on-the-floor-and-face-upwards part of the paint removal. That means that I'm finished removing paint!
I've now done that job on three cars, hope I never have to do it again, with my tools, not much room and a day job, it's hard work.
So, the doors were off, and normally I'd leave them off for the painter to paint. But since they don't have much tolerance when aligning and especially the right door jamb area needs some filling, I put them back on and spent two hours aligning them. Only then will the painter have a chance to fill and straighten the car so the gaps won't be too crude. And after that he can remove the doors again.
(in both doors the wiring to the red warning lights in the back of the door is way too long, is that the case on all Panteras, or was this car originally a 4 door?
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So all done? Not at all. Sanding, welding and straightening of metal is done.
Today I'll remove the sealer on the underside of the deck lids, and apply new. Will also start to remove all the paint dust that's everywhere. Fun times...
I've now done that job on three cars, hope I never have to do it again, with my tools, not much room and a day job, it's hard work.
So, the doors were off, and normally I'd leave them off for the painter to paint. But since they don't have much tolerance when aligning and especially the right door jamb area needs some filling, I put them back on and spent two hours aligning them. Only then will the painter have a chance to fill and straighten the car so the gaps won't be too crude. And after that he can remove the doors again.
(in both doors the wiring to the red warning lights in the back of the door is way too long, is that the case on all Panteras, or was this car originally a 4 door?
) So all done? Not at all. Sanding, welding and straightening of metal is done.
Today I'll remove the sealer on the underside of the deck lids, and apply new. Will also start to remove all the paint dust that's everywhere. Fun times...
Also did the area below the wiper grills. The old thick coating had gotten loose, looking down there looked like a 100 years old car. Removed it. Expected to find rust, and if had been a daily driver, I'm sure I would have found some, but there was none. Painted it and gave a coat of rubbery paint
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Mikael,
Did someone add the brace? Looks like it to me but I'm new to this stuff...
Looks like you've done a lot of work. I'm going to be doing the same really soon- probably in the spring and removing all of the exterior primer back to bare metal. Going to use some epoxy primer and stick with the same brand of paint materials all the way through. I'm so excited that I've already bought a cheap spray gun for primer.
Did someone add the brace? Looks like it to me but I'm new to this stuff...
Looks like you've done a lot of work. I'm going to be doing the same really soon- probably in the spring and removing all of the exterior primer back to bare metal. Going to use some epoxy primer and stick with the same brand of paint materials all the way through. I'm so excited that I've already bought a cheap spray gun for primer.
Spent the evening cleaning the garage and car of red powder. Should have protected the interior better...
Spent some time removing red paint from trim parts and rubber gaskets.
Those that are easily offended, don't read on. My painter, never one to shy away from generalizing against a whole continent, says that in an American paint shop, the two most important people are:
Those that are easily offended, don't read on. My painter, never one to shy away from generalizing against a whole continent, says that in an American paint shop, the two most important people are:
- The one masking all the items that should have been removed
The one buffing out all the imperfections after the paint is applied
I know there are a lot of good mirror solutions out there, but I like my more or less useless ones. I decided to make them less useless by moving them so they're visible through the front triangle instead of the main side window (where 1/3 was behind the divider). (Chrome trim only installed for alignment)
Old holes to the right, welded shut now, no going back.
Bonus question, which track is shown in white?
Old holes to the right, welded shut now, no going back.
Bonus question, which track is shown in white?
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quote:Bonus question, which track is shown in white?
Isle of Man! What do I win?
Sorry Dave, not entirely accurate.. 
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Not sure what you mean by "track", but there's an apparition with a camera in the glass.
John
John
quote:Bonus question, which track is shown in white?
The one we visited last summer!
Edit: But not the one where we won the race.
quote:But not the one where we won the race
Only a matter of time...
quote:apparition
Had to look that up... Yes the happy face of someone with less work ahead of him than behind him
Haven't been in the BB in some time, so I just stumbled across your post.
you really do know how to have fun! Looks like you won't be bored over the next few months. Good work, and good to see that you make significant progress in short amounts of time.
You did leave us hanging with the paint color though...
you really do know how to have fun! Looks like you won't be bored over the next few months. Good work, and good to see that you make significant progress in short amounts of time.
You did leave us hanging with the paint color though...
quote:You did leave us hanging with the paint color though...
Yes. And my priorities are still that special color. And if that's not feasible, I'm going for the old red or a bright yellow. The special color is so special that my painter doesn't like it, and he's not sure it can be done with modern water borne paints. A Pantera is an extreme car, it can bear an extreme color. And as opposed to some Lamborghini colors, this is an extreme(ly) beautiful color, not just an extreme(ly) rare and bright color, IMHO of course
Painted all the black trim parts. Had to do a bit of filling, but not much. If you use a cheapo high gloss spray can, it'll end up in the semi-gloss black that I was after. Parts are high gloss when paint is still curing, see picture, when cured, they'd be semi-gloss. If you want proper hi-gloss, you need a proper paint gun and preferably some clear coat. But these parts were newer hi-gloss AFAIK
Also decided that some in-cabin parts that are normally black will be body color, like a modern car. If I regret it, it's easy to spray them black at a later date.
Also decided that some in-cabin parts that are normally black will be body color, like a modern car. If I regret it, it's easy to spray them black at a later date.
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Been away a few days, crummy Danish damp autumn weather. I had put plastic over the car to avoid drips of water. But the dampness in the air condensed under the plastic, so I had several areas of fresh rust. So I knew I had to move it to the heated brick and mortar garage that normally contains my daily driver Longchamp. Had to wait for 15 minutes w/o rain, and then the wife, son and I pushed the Pantera to a better environment (but so small and dark fixing things in there is not easy).
Before doing that, I had the seats out. Primarily because getting them in and out normally scratches something, so now was a good time. The passenger seat was out, so I could get to the p-brake, the ratchet mechanism needed some TLC. The driver's seat was out for the maybe 10th time in my quest for a good driving position. I hate those seats, they're too thick, so finding room for me and my tall frame has involved several modification to the seats. This time I raised the front mounting to get leg support for my right leg. Also moved the accelerator yet another cm forward. And since my last seat modification moved my butt backwards (to get room for my right leg) I had gotten too far away from the clutch, so moved that closer to me.
And of course vacuumed tons of red paint from the carpet while seats were out.
Before doing that, I had the seats out. Primarily because getting them in and out normally scratches something, so now was a good time. The passenger seat was out, so I could get to the p-brake, the ratchet mechanism needed some TLC. The driver's seat was out for the maybe 10th time in my quest for a good driving position. I hate those seats, they're too thick, so finding room for me and my tall frame has involved several modification to the seats. This time I raised the front mounting to get leg support for my right leg. Also moved the accelerator yet another cm forward. And since my last seat modification moved my butt backwards (to get room for my right leg) I had gotten too far away from the clutch, so moved that closer to me.
And of course vacuumed tons of red paint from the carpet while seats were out.
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Great thread.... Looking forward to hear what color You finally will choose for the car. I still having second thoughts about the color for mine. Now it's to late, but I would have loved to see it in the 2012 Corvette color "Atomic Orange"..... THINK ABOUT IT !! *LOL*
I just HAVE to see a Pantera in that color.... Yours ?????
I just HAVE to see a Pantera in that color.... Yours ?????
Spending the time refurbishing the parts taken off the car. Cleaning, removing red paint without ruining the surface, polishing, gluing etc. The car itself is more or less ready.
Done.
Have now been through all the parts so they're ready to be painted or installed after the car is painted. Everything that's going to the painter is in labeled boxes so the painter doesn't get confused.
So it'll be a while before anything new happens. Time to do non-Pantera stuff...
Have now been through all the parts so they're ready to be painted or installed after the car is painted. Everything that's going to the painter is in labeled boxes so the painter doesn't get confused.
So it'll be a while before anything new happens. Time to do non-Pantera stuff...
quote:The body seems to need some straightening...
Mikael
Pantera+Longchamp
Author of Tuning Made Easy, available at amazon.com
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I bet your car would do awesome on left turns thou...
Mikael
It looks like you have pulled the windshield with out removing the dash. How were you able to get enough room to pull the gasket from behind the dash?
I need to replace the windshield in my car next week. When replacing, do you plan to put the trim in the gasket before installing?
It looks like you have pulled the windshield with out removing the dash. How were you able to get enough room to pull the gasket from behind the dash?
I need to replace the windshield in my car next week. When replacing, do you plan to put the trim in the gasket before installing?
quote:How were you able to get enough room to pull the gasket from behind the dash?
Do the top and sides. The bottom will follow. If you are not going to reuse the gasket, just cut it.
quote:When replacing, do you plan to put the trim in the gasket before installing?
The trim, gasket, and windshield HAVE to be installed as an "assembly". Put the gasket on the glass, install the trim, and install the "assembly".
John
Quickitty, I was just about to answer but John wrote exactly what I would have written. Gasket will be replaced, so it was cut all around. When replaced, there'll be some "goo" applied on both sides of the gasket to avoid leaks.
A quiet evening in the Jyllinge/Denmark DeTomaso home. Laying in bed, only me awake in the house. Staring at the dark ceiling. Can't sleep. Thoughts are running on:
"My mystery color will be great. Maybe. The painter didn't get back to me with a go/no-go on it before he went on vacation. Can he do it? How much more will it cost? Or maybe I should just do the red I had? It looks good. And good with chrome trim. But there are many of them. Too many? Many because it looks good in red. People can think it's a F-car. Or even worse, they can think I want them to think it's an F-car. Aaarrgghh! Now I'll never get to sleep. But what do I care what people think? I don't. Unless I want to sell it. Which I don't. Not now. Not ever? Had my Camaro for 25 years, still have it... Originally the Pantera was yellow. Yellow is a great color, but better with black trim, like Dave2811's beautiful car. Yellow and chrome too much? There's no such thing as too much for supercars. Well many Lambo colors are ugly. But back to the Pantera. I like blue metallic a lot. Same color as the Longchamp would make a great couple. But the stylish gentleman like dusty blue look is not for the Pantera? How about the Dark Blue met on the Corvette in the newest Summit catalog? Is that photoshop or is it that bright and deep? And looking at the Pantera in the nude (no paint, just metal), silver looks good as well. Can't make up my mind. What do I know for sure? I don't like green. I don't like black. I don't like white. I hope the mystery color will work out. Then again, I might never be able to sell it. Hhhmmm... That's good! Mystery color it is. Zzz"
As you can see I've more time on my hands now. It's ready for paint, painter is on vacation. Might pop into the living room and see what the wife is doing with her life...
"My mystery color will be great. Maybe. The painter didn't get back to me with a go/no-go on it before he went on vacation. Can he do it? How much more will it cost? Or maybe I should just do the red I had? It looks good. And good with chrome trim. But there are many of them. Too many? Many because it looks good in red. People can think it's a F-car. Or even worse, they can think I want them to think it's an F-car. Aaarrgghh! Now I'll never get to sleep. But what do I care what people think? I don't. Unless I want to sell it. Which I don't. Not now. Not ever? Had my Camaro for 25 years, still have it... Originally the Pantera was yellow. Yellow is a great color, but better with black trim, like Dave2811's beautiful car. Yellow and chrome too much? There's no such thing as too much for supercars. Well many Lambo colors are ugly. But back to the Pantera. I like blue metallic a lot. Same color as the Longchamp would make a great couple. But the stylish gentleman like dusty blue look is not for the Pantera? How about the Dark Blue met on the Corvette in the newest Summit catalog? Is that photoshop or is it that bright and deep? And looking at the Pantera in the nude (no paint, just metal), silver looks good as well. Can't make up my mind. What do I know for sure? I don't like green. I don't like black. I don't like white. I hope the mystery color will work out. Then again, I might never be able to sell it. Hhhmmm... That's good! Mystery color it is. Zzz"
As you can see I've more time on my hands now. It's ready for paint, painter is on vacation. Might pop into the living room and see what the wife is doing with her life...
Mikael,
Your answer is here.
Mark
Your answer is here.
Mark
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Color is awesome