Project Pain(t) begins

Bummer
My painter says that my mystery color can't be made. So I have to rethink.

What I was looking for was a glow in the dark highlight neon yellow. I painted it on a Camaro in the 90s, it was copied off a bicycle that was highlight yellow, like I think some firetrucks are in the US? What you do is that you paint the car white, and then apply a few layers of very yellow, but also see-through, paint, that gives the effect. My Camaro in sunshine was something else, often it was pictured in magazines when at car shows, just because of the paint. And the pictures didn't do it justice, a photograph could not capture the effect on the human eye. The effect was such that when it was parked on the street beneath my 1st floor apartment, the ceiling in my apartment would be slightly yellow. And on a sunny morning with dew on the hood, you almost couldn't see anything.

But…that was back in the days before water borne paint. I'm told this see-through yellow can't be made water borne, and the cars you see today with something neon yellow, that's film attached to it. So "back to square one"

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Originally posted by JTpantera:
Color is awesome

I second that... fantastic color.

Hmmm. So nuclear, glow-in-the-dark yellow can't be painted today? Too bad.

You aren't alone. I had my car repainted 2 years ago and went through the same process. I seriously considered the burgundy color from the last page, a-la Johnny Woods (or Colin Bradshaw, whose GT5-S came from the factory with that color). You can drive yourself crazy with the options, so I took the easy way out and repainted mine the same color as it was before I started...

Had another color idea, but that would quadruple the price of the paint job.

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repainted mine the same color as it was before I started

Sound advice, I'm close to full circle on the choices, back to the blood red it was...

If you like yellow, consider the Ferrari color "Giallo Modena". My car was painted with this, and I constantly get comments on how good it looks. A richer color than the original Pantera yellow.

Not very surpricing, but I LOVE this Turquoise color - a bit in the same ballpark as the original 1971 V305 medium green.

turquiose Lambo

Dave, your car is beautiful, no doubt. The problem as I see it with yellows and reds, they can't be judged by pictures, and the wrong shade of yellow looks faded and the wrong shade of red looks like tomato soup past its prime.

Kristian, you are MR TURQUIOSE by now. Too difficult to spell for me, RED is easier.

Still have a few trick paints on my mind, but the painter seems to shoot them down one by one, and maybe there's a good reason why nobody has put them on a private car before. I'm adding a picture of my red car, just to remember it, doesn't look half bad...

maybe get a second opinion from another painter?

I'm with You all the way on the red color. I like red sportscars. So classy, but it sure looks good !!

I'm happy with the Lazer Red Pearl that I chose for mine !!

Mikael,

or just a slightly darker shade of red....

Wolfgang (who starts to read your book today)

car was painted by wilkinson pantera about 10 years ago. the shade of red looks deeper than the original pantera red.

Beautiful cars, yes. Not my choice of color, but thanks.

That is an impressive paint job. Although, I am not refering to the color. Rather, how they sharpened all the lines of the car. The lines are very straight and visible reflecting the panel angles very well. Most non-pantera shops miss that whole effect and tend to soften them with their poor sanding technique. Rumor had it at one time that many cars left the factory with "crisper" lines than others as the kersite dies used to stamp the panels lost their edge over time. Whether true or not, crisp lines are a dead giveaway to a quality restoration. And yours are sharp!

No moving of Pantera to the painter this weekend either...

Just wondering...
Tire rack has a web page where you can see all their rims on your car. How about color? Has anybody produced a Pantera photoshop something where I can see all colors on a Pantera? Ideally with known car colors to choose from, but otherwise just a palette? To help me decide?

BTW, my Pantera has not been moved to the painter yet. We haven't found a day with no rain and dry roads for 6 weeks. Makes me wonder if I live in the right country...

How about renting an enclosed trailer?

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Tire rack has a web page where you can see all their rims on your car. How about color?

Try this: Color Selector

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Try this: Color Selector

Fabulous...

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an enclosed trailer

But that costs money...

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How about color? Has anybody produced a Pantera photoshop something where I can see all colors on a Pantera? Ideally with known car colors to choose from, but otherwise just a palette? To help me decide?

I put something like that on my website, but I don't have a color palette for users to mix their own colors.
http://www.banzairunnerpantera.com/color_selector.htm

Finally! Today we moved my Pantera to the painter. After nervously looking for a dry bright day almost 2 months, they promised below freezing, no snow, not even any clouds, pure sunshine, in a 3-4 hour window. We only needed 45 minutes. So I called the painter early, he needed his breakfast, and then drove to my house with a powerboating friend. And guess what, when they arrived and my mobile's weather forecast showed only sun, it was snowing. Not a lot, but f...... annoying!

There was no turning back now, so I invented a drive bag for paint free cars. First plastic cover, then the normal cover to keep it all in place. Not ideal, but pretty ok.

We had to push it bare, and of course that meant that we were in a hurry. We had no time to rig a hand winch, so we "just" pushed it up onto the trailer. Not as easy as we thought, but halfway up and snowing, you find strength you didn't know you had

Fully dressed...

On route, me nervously following. Had to stop twice to tighten straps etc.

Weather became better as we approached my painter's shop, there was the sun, so unloading was no problem. It's now parked in his shop.

About the color, I've narrowed it to something blue by looking at all blue Panteras in the registry. Showed the painter my favorites, he'll make a sample spray for me...

Hi Mikael,
Congrats on finally getting it moved. Looking forward to seeing the color!
Cheers, Tim.

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About the color, I've narrowed it to something blue by looking at all blue Pantera in the registry. Showed the painter my favorites, he'll make a sample spray for me...

FWIW, I love the Ferrari 355 blue on these cars. A fellow PCNC member painted his the lighter of these shades (bottom) and it looks great!

http://www.thewatchersnetwork....-ferrari-f355-17.jpg


http://www.thewatchersnetwork....ars/ferrari-355.html

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Originally posted by No Quarter:
About the color, I've narrowed it to something blue...

Mikael,

I'm pretty happy with 2005 Ford GT midnight blue.




Mark

I'm going for the lighter nuances at the moment...

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nuances...

That doesn't sound like you.

I eagerly await the unveiling. As long as it isn't something poofy like Robins' Egg Blue.

Of course, it is your car and only YOU need to be happy.

Mark

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As long as it isn't something poofy like Robins' Egg Blue

Not far from it...

The metal has been prepared, deep scratches removed if any. And the straightening has begun. I warned the painter that there was filler almost all over, very thin in most places, but still. Is it the same with all Panteras? "Hand-built"? Especially the front lid, looks very straight in metal, but when starting the work, you can see the result

If you wonder why you can spot a bit of red on my car in front of the left rear, it's because I want the painter to measure it, so we can replicate it, if I end up going with red.

Rear deck lid had a dent at the rear, and also a non-standard brace beneath, pictured earlier. Took some straightening and then some filler. Somebody must have sat there, if it was the owner placing a woman there, I hope it was worth it...
Maybe this car was the reason they started putting a profile in the middle of the rear deck lid?

Well, at least it's WIP!

Here's the difficult side "straightened" :-). My painter likes to cover everything in bondo and sand most of it off. I would have used a lot less, maybe that's why he's a pro, and I'm ... not.
Maybe I should keep that pale-banana color?

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Maybe I should keep that pale-banana color?

Not a bad idea, after all, it is closer to the color God and Alejandro intended our cars to be - yellow!

Seriously, keep the progress pics coming!

Hey, the door fits! On the right where door skin and rear fender have been replaced and rocker panel was a bit bent, it was quite a bit of work to get it straight.

I think I've asked this before, but did I get any answers? Almost everywhere I removed the paint to the metal, I found a thin layer of filler. Most of it very thin, but I found almost no surfaces that were just painted straight on. Is that normal for Italian hand built? Or are all you guys' cars totally straight under the paint?

A lot of negative can be said about my previous paint, but it was 100% straight, so somebody did a good job straightening.

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Originally posted by No Quarter:
I think I've asked this before, but did I get any answers? Almost everywhere I removed the paint to the metal, I found a thin layer of filler. Most of it very thin, but I found almost no surfaces that were just painted straight on. Is that normal for Italian hand built? Or are all you guys' cars totally straight under the paint?

A thin layer of filler or thick layer of surfacing primer is the only way to block the body completely, optically, smooth. It is a common show car technique.

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Most of it very thin, but I found almost no surfaces that were just painted straight on.

Mine had just a thin coat of primer underneath the original gold metal paint so I assume the metal was staight from the factory. On top of the original paint I found several coats of filler, primer and paint from two resprays.

ok new rule when you hit 200 posts you have to paint the car i'm dying to see the new color