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I just got a set of BC/AR Campi Clone wheels shipped to my home and the center cap is not the same as the original Campi's. The DeTomaso Logo is too small for the opening and there is no lip for the spring clip. For those who have these wheels, what solutions have you found other than using the polished cap that comes with the wheels (I would prefer to see that Blue and While logo vice a plain polished cap).

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Personally, I'd be on the telephone talking with the seller and asking them why they made the wheels incorrectly for their advertised purpose.

Of course, you capture more flies with honey rather than vinegar..... Big Grin

but REALLY. Wheels are their business, they should know center emblems have varying diameters and should therefore build model-specific wheels to match factory dimensions in that area.

Freshman FAIL on their part

Good luck
Freshman fail has the been the name of the game with this order. I honestly can't recommend them. They make a well priced 18" wheel, but it comes with some drawbacks.

My biggest heartburn is that they shipped 3 17" wheels and 1 18" wheel rather than my actual order of 17s and 18s. They also shipped the wheels 10 days after their promised ship date. In their defense I only gave them 3 weeks notice and wheels typically take 4-6 weeks, but the first rule in business is the under promise and over deliver vice over promise and under deliver. If you can't meet the deadline, tell your customer early.

I have some ideas for center cap solutions

1. Have the DeTomaso Logo engraved on the polished caps
2. Have the polished caps machined to accept the colored logo, then glue it to the aluminum centercap.
3. Flip the centercap around and glue the logo to the back and polish the lip.

Where would I start to find someone who can engrave or machine aluminum? Machine shop?
I bought a spare set of wheel centers from PI Motorsports for my clones purchased from them. I would imagine that the center opening is a standard size, I'm thinking about 2". They are made of chrome plated plastic and I glued the new logos (black) into them although they snapped in very tight and probably didn't need any glue. There is an o-ring on the center cap that keeps them in place on the wheel. I used a little silicone spray to remove and reinstall them. I had considered machining a set out of aluminum but it was too easy to buy a set.

Steve
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Where would I start to find someone who can engrave or machine aluminum? Machine shop?

Call and talk with the owner, Mark Johnson.

He does excellent work, does a lot of pieces for Quella and other vendors, and no doubt already has some deTomaso logos and the Isis saved for his CNC operations.

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Damn Andy, IPSCO is a good idea.

Jim, a good machinist can produce a little aluminum sleeve for you that will snap into the wheel's center, and provide the proper sized "recess" for the OEM De Tomaso logo and clip.

Hell, if I still had access to a lathe via my former employer I'd do it for you. But I'm retired. Honestly, it's about a 2 or 3 hour job ... if I could do it then its not brain surgery.
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Originally posted by Jimlah:
My biggest heartburn is that they shipped 3 17" wheels and 1 18" wheel rather than my actual order of 17s and 18s. They also shipped the wheels 10 days after their promised ship date. In their defense I only gave them 3 weeks notice and wheels typically take 4-6 weeks, but the first rule in business is the under promise and over deliver vice over promise and under deliver. If you can't meet the deadline, tell your customer early.

Jimiah you have my wheel and I have yours! I agree they are very slow, I ordered mine August 13th. Your wheel is boxed up and ready to be collected by UPS.
I would be interested in what you find out for center caps.
Have you noticed the hub holes are not the stock 62mm but 72.64mm. The wheels are supposed to be lug centric rather than hub centric according to David Rittenhouse and finding hub rings that size looks like a custom size. Not sure if they are necessary, thoughts?
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I bought a spare set of wheel centers from PI Motorsports for my clones purchased from them. I would imagine that the center opening is a standard size, I'm thinking about 2". They are made of chrome plated plastic and I glued the new logos (black) into them although they snapped in very tight and probably didn't need any glue. There is an o-ring on the center cap that keeps them in place on the wheel. I used a little silicone spray to remove and reinstall them. I had considered machining a set out of aluminum but it was too easy to buy a set.

Steve


Here's a shot of the set I removed from my PIM wheels.

Steve

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So if I understand correctly. the Hall caps press fit in to the rims. And than the standard size logos fit with the normal size retaining  clips ?

As far as my wheel shown above the Hall cap sits right on that small inside ridge of the wheel, then I slip the cap into that spot with a little silicone on the back edge and then the snap ring goes on next to also keep the cap in place. Now with my wheels anyway, the snap ring size is almost equal to the cap diameter so in one instance when I had new tires put on I lost a cap when riding on the road somewhere. So to make the snap ring have a little more thickness I put in a very thin wire before installing the snap ring and that worked perfect. Who knows maybe that dab of silicone would have worked alone but since the ring was already there I just modded it and used it too.  In the photo below it shows the status of the wheel when the cap fell out so you can see the ring needed to be a bit thicker. My wheels may be different, but just saying that's how I got mine to work.

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Thank you Does 200. I called Hall and spoke with Gary's granddaughter. Unfortunately, she does not recall this product ever being available from them. Or maybe you bought yours before she started working there? 

I tried PIM, contacted Jerry and the only thing he has available is the same Coddington like billet dome type but with the Isis logo.  I guess I will try other venders.

Thank you Does 200. I called Hall and spoke with Gary's granddaughter. Unfortunately, she does not recall this product ever being available from them. Or maybe you bought yours before she started working there?

I tried PIM, contacted Jerry and the only thing he has available is the same Coddington like billet dome type but with the Isis logo.  I guess I will try other venders.

Just got mine a couple weeks ago, Hall has hundreds of the caps. I think she must have misunderstood what you wanted. Give her a call again, Wheel Center Logos shown below:

http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin...a-inc&item=22429

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I think there is some confusion in this thread regarding terms being used  

does200 refers to the flat emblems as caps. But 4134 uses the term caps to refer to the large center cap that fills the wheel center hole

The flat ….emblems….., available in different styles, are readily available from HALL Pantera.

what I think 4134 is having problems with is that his current center …..cap…… the large piece that fits in the center of the wheel, is designed for a larger emblem and will not support the standard hall emblem

I think 4134 is looking for a replacement cap that is correct for his current wheel centers and for the hall emblems or perhaps an adapter that could convert his existing caps to accept the HALL emblems

did I get this right?

I would imagine that somewhere in the custom wheel world there are adapters made it to accomplish what 4134 desires. Unfortunately I do not have any knowledge of who that might be

Larry

My old friend Larry is correct. What I am needing is a cap that will accommodate the Isis logo center. The Etsy option may work, but there is only a very small maybe 2mm ridge that the logo center would rest on and require epoxy to attach. And maybe some silicon adhesive on the back to hopefully keep it in place. Will it work probably? But I would much rather find a "cap" that fits the rim and  a traditional logo center piece will mount on. I have sent an e-mail to Adam at Pantera Performance and hopefully they can help. The pics are what I have currently.

Jeff

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