Ring Brothers Pantera Chassis

It looks like they used similar spindles in the front and the rear of the car.

They use a link to control the rear toe. Wouldn't that cause rear bump steer? I suppose a little toe in under compression could be good, but if it went the other way, it would be a pretty hairy ride.

For economics, some factories (& builders) use the same uprights front & rear. Not sure- I think an early LOLA sports-racer was done this way. Fieros, Renault RE-4 off-road turbo-racers and the Long & Newman Citation-engined cars did this since their whole powertrain was originally a front-driver moved to the back. Obviously, one end or the other has its upright mis-sized for strength. But using a link on the rear suspension makes rear toe-in adjustments easy....

they built that car for one thing - go to SEMA and win a trophy.

I seriously doubt any of the Ring Brothers did an analysis of that suspension or modeled it dynamically.

And I am positive Mr. Gas Monkey gives a crap as well. It sits in his shop or they do burnouts with it.

Great car to cruise down the block in though or pick up chicks.

Ass Monkey!! I only watch his show for Sue comments!

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Originally posted by Panterapatt: they built that car for one thing - go to SEMA and win a trophy…..I seriously doubt any of the Ring Brothers did an analysis of that suspension or modeled it dynamically.

I think you may be underestimating Ring Brothers in this respect. They mocked up the entire suspension and mounting points on the bench. You don’t go to all that effort just for giggles. If you didn’t give a rip about how it functioned you’d just hang it on the car and be done with it. While I don’t know what choices they made in regard to suspension and drive train geometry, they were being very purposeful about validating their decisions before committing them to the build. Opinions and tastes vary but those guys are talented builders…..not hacks, Now their interior approach for the build…a different discussion.

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And I am positive Mr. Gas Monkey gives a crap as well. It sits in his shop or they do burnouts with it.

No argument on that point.

Best,
K

The suspension was built by The Roadster Shop and is based on C5 Corvette components. The fabrication skills at both Roadster Shop and Ring Bros is state of the art. Like the car or not (i have mixed feelings myself) you can't question the build quality. I saw the car in person at SEMA and it looks amazing.

[QUOTE] Originally posted by randy37:
The suspension was built by The Roadster Shop and is based on C5 Corvette components. [QUOTE]

After googeling C5 rear suspension, I can see the similarities. I bet they tried to the use same ratios and relative mounting points to get it to act like a C5. Obviously they used coil-overs instead of a transverse spring like many racers do. I see their logic, why reinvent the wheel if they don't have to.

The Ring Brothers Pantera wasn't a "blank check" build, so if they went to the expense of all new suspension, they obviously felt there was a need for it. If you look at the photos of the front suspension, specifically the angle of the front upper control arms, it's obvious they've incorporated the C5/C6 'Vette's anti-dive geometry into their design.

I was in touch with Phil at The Roadster Shop and he said bill would be $20K-$30K to do the suspension.