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I just wanted to warn people of Stebro exhaust company in Ontario. I recently purchased twp stainless exhaust systems from Stebro for my Ferrari 308 GTB and 512 BBi for what I thought was a very reasonable price ($4,500). It took almost two months to get the parts and a lot of emails to get him to send the parts. The parts came in two packages, the first part was only half of the 512 BBi mufflers and then a month later the 308 exhaust came without the other half of the 512 BBi exhaust system. It was missing all of the gaskets and bolts and mounting assemblies that he promised. The 308 muffler also was damaged when it arrived making me think perhaps the mufflers were damage all along (reason for the good price). He has not answered my emails or phone calls since. I have found out for disputes with the credit card I used its around 60 days. Its been over sixty days since I made the purchase and perhaps it may not be able to dispute this now. I am appauled at the way they do business. I was going to order a Mangusta exhaust from them but after this experience I would say definately no.

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Ben,

These guys are in my town. I am happy to go visit them and assist in any way you need — just e-mail me privately the details and how I can help. The damage looks like shipping damage but they should have been properly packed so that would not happen. Plus, you'd expect a lot of visible damage to the shipping box if that was the case.

Mark
Ben,

I can truly recommend the "Ansa copy" stainless exhaust system that Dana put together at Mangusta International! Fit and finish was fantastic, over packed, and sounds great! Nice and mellow!!!

He worked with me on some issues I had, so that I could custom fit the inlet pipes to my custom headers, and it all came out very nice! I also didn't have them painted.....I like the look of the raw stainless.....lean and clean!

Check out my pic's in the "Oops I'm doing it again" thread, towards the last couple of pages where I fit it all in.....

Steve
Well I finally got the other rear mufflers for the 512 BBi. I never got the story from Dan about what happened to the first set. It was never sent or lost. He said he had to build another set and sent them after the rebuild. I had to threathen to return everything before something was done. As far as the bent 308 tips he sent me four new tips but they don't look like the ones on the original exhaust. They look kind of like "Ricer" tips. I've yet to see if anything bolts up or aligns up yet. Ben
Ben,

Are the 308 pipes actually stainless? They obviously shouldn't rust if they were but also will be non-magnetic (a simple test) if they are stainless. If they are stainless and also hold a magnet, they could be ferritic stainless, which can rust slightly, but I highly doubt it because it would be unusual to use it in exhausts.

Mark
400 series stainless steel is magnetic, while the 300 series is usually nonmagnetic or has a weak magnetic attraction. Cold working stainless steel can induce/create magnetic attraction.

In general, the higher the nickel to chromium ratio the more stable is the austenitic structure and the less magnetic response that will be induced by cold work.

Old 304 stainless steel is usually nonmagnetic. New 304 is usually magnetic, as most producers have cut the passivated step as a cost saving measure.

Try the magnet test on any car that has a stainless steel exhaust.

John
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