I obtained this wheel some years ago for way too much money. It is not from a Pantera but from the original car that used that wheel, a Lancia.

I am using a Grant key lock removable wheel hub for my three spoke LeCarra wheel. I am in the process of mounting the two spoke to a second Grant hub so I can interchange the two wheels.

With due diligence on eBay I did manage to find the proper ghia steering wheel center emblem and have mounted it in a generic horn button kit.

Larry

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Originally posted by Rocky:
It says "Protipo"... Is that the model, or the manufacturer?



Prototipo is a model of Momo from the 1980's. Was standard on the GT 5 S. If you look behind it you'll find the build date engraved by Momo.

it is rare but by far the Ferrero above is the hen's teeth of the bunch so far.
Thanks David, I had no idea that it was re issued for the 50th anniversary of the company. I think leather is a natural selection for the Pantera, the wood steering wheels just don't sit well on it. I also saved a Momo Grand Prix that I took off my 67 Alfa, it's stamped 7- 1976. The Nardi is really nice.

With this 13in. LeCarra, and then finding that my right knee no longer had to rest against the wheel..........

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And then I built a clock center section (that lives in the door pocket) for those long road trips, just like Jay Leno's has!.........

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Two questions - PanTTera where did you get the LeCarra from?

And - does anyone have the part number for the right Momo Hub Adaptor for a '71?
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the right Momo Hub Adaptor for a '71

Search for an early MK1 Capri adaptor, from which our columns are sourced.

Larry

While looking around for a LeCarra Mark 4 (check ebay), I came across the British "Moto-Lita" brand. This one is a dished 13" Mark Four in black leather. I ended up getting it via an ebay seller, who also provided the correct adaptor.
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I thought the vented grip was more practical. The smooth leather gets shiny in spots from your sweaty hands polishing the leather.

It's very hard to keep uniform looking.

This is the 350mm Momo "Competition" wheel with Wilkinson's stainless steel quick release mechanism.

It's duller (reduced glare) finish stays more consistent looking. The leather is perforated and basically eliminates the need for driving gloves.


I HAD the LeCarra wheel in the car when I bought it. At some point it seemed outdated and after the quick disconnect became available it was for sure a goner. Cool

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...LEcarra Leather.
Notice the column has been Spaced Down 1/4"(at Top Mount Bolts) to bring the top of the Wheel, to just below the 'Line of Sight', of the Hood.


When We are Watching the Road, Do We Want the Steering Wheel in Our Way?

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Hey Jan, beautiful interiors! Your cars make mine look like it´s ready for the junkyard.

On a side note, are your floor mats all custom made? I have a particular interest in the type with the red logo, (in your red GT5S, I presume).

Any info would be great, thanks!
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Originally posted by pantera chris:
I am changing to a Momo wheel, do the adapters on ebay work???


Oye vey! Boobbabla!

The adapters are specific to the Pantera. They are solid aluminum, and not the whimpy collision collapsible type that the sissy fagot boys use.

I'm very sure that I got mine from the Momo dealer with the wheel...and yes they were on Ebay.

There ARE some reliable people selling on there BUT one needs to be able to distinguish them from the Unicorn dealers?

Hall and Wilkinson both carry them in stock.
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One more...

Sorry - needed a better flash...

These are two different cars, but this the same wheels.

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Yes, those are the same configuration as mine, i.e., same core, different finish.
The top curve of the spokes helps with the view of the instruments. Depth of the dish works well with the arm length positioning for me.
I find the perforated leather easier to grip then the smooth but that is personal preference on my part.
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Originally posted by Piney:
Hey Jan, beautiful interiors! Your cars make mine look like it´s ready for the junkyard.

On a side note, are your floor mats all custom made? I have a particular interest in the type with the red logo, (in your red GT5S, I presume).

Any info would be great, thanks!


Thanks! Yes, the red logo mats are I presume were made (outsourced) by the builder (the old legendary Fat Jack). I am guessing possibly through Hall Pantera. I can take some close up if you want with a ruler next to it. I have receipts about 2" thick on that car, so I could look there too. Email me if you want: ciao4u2@aol.com

This in the link below shows what Hall has, but maybe they could do the red logo:
http://hallpantera.com/cgi-bin...ntera-inc&item=66158

Here is my suede MOMO wheels with the GT40 style center that I offer. I have these in 6 bolt MOMO/Sparco pattern or the 5 bolt Grant pattern in bare billet aluminum as well as anodized black.

Ron

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Originally posted by Rob Borruso:
Very cool Mr. McCall.... I likey... Thumbs Up!


Thanks Rob. Let me know if you would like one.


Ron
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Originally posted by pantera chris:
new Momo


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I'm surprised that Chris is the only one so far to show a D shaped steering wheel. I've had mine since 2001 and think it's the only way to go, and I'm only 5' 10" tall with normal length legs! I also like the contoured grip areas which make it very comfortable.

I got the hub and removable adapter from Panteras by Wilkinson. Not only is it a good theft deterrent but it also makes it really easy to work under the dash in the footwell area! I believe mine is 340 mm (about 13") but others may be available. My particular model is out of production but can be found on eBay. Chris' is in production. His is the Trek model, but others are available. Just google Momo D shaped steering wheel or flat bottomed in place of D. To restrict to what may be available now, click on tools and "Past year" or what ever. Try clicking on images too.

I don't know what hub Chris used, but the Trek wheel doesn't look like it would work with Wilkinson's removable adapter. You need one with a hole in the center and clear access to the standard mounting holes.

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Momo Mod 26 race wheel from a Spice GTP car. Perfect for my race/street Gr 4 style Pantera. The AL bracket holds a push to talk intercom button.


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Presumably the original steering wheels are splined and are secured to the splined steering shaft with a nut?
Do all MOMO adapters have the same splining?
Does anyone know the proper spline count and diameter?
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Does anyone know the proper spline count and diameter?

9/16"x 36

This is a fairly common dimension, used on domestic and imported vehicles. For example, I know it is also used by Mazda.

Larry
One of the things I am noticing is that the LaCarra has more "dish" to it then the standard Momo's.

I sold my LaCarra without checking that so now I am just guessing at that number?

Looks like the LaCarra is about a 1 to a 1-1/2" deep dish and the Momo's maybe just a slight one at maybe 1/2".

That definitely is going to give the clearance for your right leg and serving the same purpose as the D wheel.

For you D guys, I did try a Momo D wheel and it didn't give me the clearance that I was looking for.

I'm thinking of trying various offset wheels, i.e., 2", 3" and seeing if the combination works better?
My car came with a LeCarra steering wheel. It is 13 1/2" OD and has a 1 1/2" deep dish. It also has a bow away from the dash at the top. I don't have any leg clearance problems. It is very comfortable to drive with the top bow.
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Originally posted by over50:
My car came with a LeCarra steering wheel. It is 13 1/2" OD and has a 1 1/2" deep dish. It also has a bow away from the dash at the top. I don't have any leg clearance problems. It is very comfortable to drive with the top bow.


I don't understand what you mean by a "bow" in the wheel?
Do you mean the "dish"?
Can you post a picture?

It is hard to get a picture that shows. I looked at the LeCarra website but it isn't very good about details of the wheels they sell. This might be what they call a Mark 4 but I'm not sure. You will have to call LeCarra to find out what I actually have. The top of the wheel bows toward the driver about an inch.
I'll try to get more pictures or measurements if you want.
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That LeCarra wheel came on my GT5, I didn't like the thickness, too thick. The bow is simply a weakness of the wheel bending when grabbed to get in or out of the car.
Who would have thought. I don't use the steering wheel to get in/out of the car. I find it very comfortable to drive with the bow. If I replaced it, I would probably bend the new one before installing.
Norm
I've been reading "customer reviews" of various steering wheels.

One thing that I noticed that comes up is "flimsy".

I'm not a novice to aftermarket steering wheels and have never come across this before so it has my attention.

Personally I can't even imagine how I personally could bend or twist these things up UNLESS they were in some kind of an accident where the wheel was subject to some kind of an impact?

Even the "Chinese" versions are made with a similar thickness to the aluminum frames.

The only thing that would vary would be the alloy involved?


I think I remember something about the wood rim wheels being involved in splintering in collisions where as the leather covered tend to bend and absorb the impacts.
A correctly made steering wheel is designed to deform in a crash before your chest does.
The fact that a Chinese wheel does so beforehand is no surprise to me.
Went through the Chinese parts thing with my TR6 and all of it was junk.

FWIW, MOMO Prototipo's are made of a non-weldable aluminum alloy. I TIG'ed one back together for a friend and it lasted a month before cracking next to the weld.

WOW, there is a lot of Ugly steering wheels being fitted sorry to say, i think the Steering wheel design is crucial to the overall look of the interior.  I just use the Stock wheel

lf-tp2511 posted:

My Ghia center

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Is this an original horn button? Or is it a side emblem you placed in there? Thanks Ed

1C275593-8647-468E-9343-CDAF35B87F22 No, it is not original to a Pantera, but it is a Ghia horn button emblem. It is as close as I could get and will ‘fool’ most.

Pictured is an original:

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I’m trying to find an original that can be scanned into photoshop and then I can make an embossed sticker from that. :-) I have a two spoke but missing the horn button.

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