WINGS! Is there a link to pics of the different wings people have chosen to run?

Does anyone make a ducktail wing?

I may just fab something up, I love the race look, so riveted on aluminum ducktail isn't out of the question, but if there was one available I'd love to see it.

I'm also attracted to GT style wings. I think a full GT wing on a Pantera would look sweet.

I like the wing that Mark Charleton has.

I have the Amerispost GSX Low Profile wing. Very low subtle and just as Kirk designed and follows the body lines (and deck lid rib) perfect. Many people don't notice it and think it is completely stock. The 3rd brake light is a nice safety feature and is quite hidden on a red car. Not sure if would look quite as clean on a car of a different color.

Here is another angle.

Very Nice! I like that wing a lot. I like your wheels too. I'm rockin the same ones.

A full GT wing IMO probably is harder to get the right look on a non-flared car.

The wing you have works VERY well with your non-flared car. My car also has no flares, I may seriously look into getting that wing.

Here is a link to Alex's Flickr page when they were mocking up his blue Group IV car. He also has a beautiful red GT5-S.

Roughed in "Duck Tail" on Alex's Pantera #5555

I also believe there is a specific thread on his blue Group IV car #5555 on this forum with more information on how they built the duck tail and all the other mods they did.

I tried to attached a photo of the rough duck tail in primer but I am having trouble getting my IPad to resize the photo to meet forum requirements. BTW - The finished product is very nice (sorry didn't have time to search one out).

Hope this helps.

Devin

To address (sort of) as to whether a sugar-scoop or Boxer-slat will make a delta wing work better or worse on a Pantera, the question has been asked before and to my knowledge, no back-to-back tests or wind-tunnel runs ever were done. The Boxer-slat was as a result of one of Ferrari's rare public mistakes. The carbureted Boxer's air intakes were at the extreme rear of the decklid (designed very much like the earlier Pantera decklid), and the under-car airflow raised the air going over the sugar-scoop decklid enough that the big V-12 went lean over about 160 mph. Adding a slat over the front of the decklid bent the total airflow down enough that the carbs got air at all speeds attainable. I note that with all this, even racing (alleggarrita) versions of the Ferrari Boxer did not run a wing or a tail spoiler with it.

It certainly seems that at higher speeds, the rear swirl over & behind a Pantera will be bent down with a Boxer-slat, possibly making a wing or a blade-spoiler more effective. Exactly HOW much more effective, and at what speeds, is still an open question until someone tries it and publishes their results.

A few years ago, Bob Bensen tried an air/oil cooler mounted half-way up the stanchions holding his high-mounted wing, and found that the cooler was completely useless as mounted. At the time I suggested trying a Boxer slat, but he decided to change to a smaller, lighter & more effective water-to-oil cooler. That certainly would have answered the question, if done.

This wing has been on my car way before I bought it. I think it was made by Hall Pantera

I'm still looking at different wings.

I do like the Countach wing, but my car is flareless, so I want something a little more sedate.

Now mind you, my car has huge 335 wide rear tires, and basically slicks, and sits low, so it can handle a wing and still look non-poser, but it has to be the right wing before I drill any holes in my car.

I'd also like a wing , BUT i dont want to drill holes in my car more

I've had several wings. I intended to install one eventually. I took pictures of the car with and without the wing installed and finally decided a wing just didn't look right on a narrow bodied car (not to mention the reluctance to drill holes in the deck lid).

Cleared for takeoff!

What wing is that exactly and where can I get one? s it the Hall wing?

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Originally posted by Panther:
Cleared for takeoff!

This is a factory aluminum wing.

The middle area is a weak spot prone to cracking. I ended up strengthening this area. It's a very light wing.

Wings are gay ( no offence to homosexuals).

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Originally posted by 4NHOTROD:
Wings are gay ( no offence to homosexuals).

lol

I guess that's ok nowadays.

I'm low on funds right now or I'd be seriously considering buying this wing.

Marlin Jack,

Also called Wickerbill, Wicker & early on Gurney Flap.

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Originally posted by IndyDave:
Also called Wickerbill, ...

I, at first assumed i knew why the term was applied, BUT, i found out i didn't!
googling and reading the history was educational....THANKS

Which do you think is actually more effective at, say, 100-140mph, a Countach style wing, or a ducktaail wing like I've seen on some race car vids?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EXQPlPgYxU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUjehWztZTE

I quite like the look of the ducktail wings/spoilers. More easily fabricated, I'm thinking of adding one to my car, along with some side window air scoops, 5" tall velacity stacks, painting/wrapping th front decklid flat black, give the car a different, motre personal look. Plus, I plan to do track days, but I won't be going over 120-130 at the fastest.

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Originally posted by mike the snake:
Which do you think is actually more effective at, say, 100-140mph, a Countach style wing, or a ducktaail wing like I've seen on some race car vids?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EXQPlPgYxU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUjehWztZTE

I quite like the look of the ducktail wings/spoilers. More easily fabricated, I'm thinking of adding one to my car, along with some side window air scoops, 5" tall velacity stacks, painting/wrapping th front decklid flat black, give the car a different, motre personal look. Plus, I plan to do track days, but I won't be going over 120-130 at the fastest.

I'm pretty sure that on a race car the wing would be too much in the way to deal with considering the the deck usually needs to come off to work on the engine.

I don't think the location of the ducktail and the size of it are arbitrary?

They both provide down force but in doing so create some drag.

The results probably are similar but if I was seriously going racing the ducktail is probably what would happen.

Both the Ford GT40 and the Cobra "Daytonna" Coupes used the ducktail.

In those days the race team would just take a pair of "tin snips" and trim some of the tail down if the driver thought there was too much downforce.

I can't recall the Detomaso Gp4 cars with a spoiler anywhere on the car but it is not unfair to say now that the car could have used more race development?


What I do know about the Pantera aerodynamics is that the nose gets light at speeds somewhere about 150mph. That's where the little GTS chin spoiler was required.


Spoilers in the rear extert downforce in the rear for extra traction.

Downforce numbers that I have seen on many rear spoilers put that number in the 50 to 70 pound vicinity.

I do not know what additional drag they caused?


I do remember a magazine article about the Countach with the wing, the Lamborghini test driver said that the wing held back the top speed of the car.

As I recall it was something like 203 mph without the wing and 198 with the wing.