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What is the deal on the6 speed for the Pantera?
Is this a modified 5 speed?

Has anyone here used one?

Do they cost less then umpteen million dollars?


NO
NO
YES, ONLY $16K, then you have to wait 5 years coz Lloyd has all the SPF GT40 guys lined up to give him a good beating.
I thought they mad it down into the high twelves at one time. It is the same tranny he makes for the Series One Cobra and the Saleen S7. It can take some mucho serious HP.
I think you have to make some cuts somewhere in the back to get it to fit. Seems like I remember something about that. Oh and you get a new shift gate with it too.
I understood the ZF six speed to be a modified ZF five speed. It has a new casting sandwiched between the main gear cluster case and the rear cover plate, in which the sixth gear resides. It will require you to relocate the A/C condensor to the front of the car.

The Ricardo six speed found in the Ford GT is based on the ZF, but an entirely new critter.

By the way, Steve Wilkinson is now finishing up - hopefully for Vegas - a customer car with the GT engine and Ricardo trans. He told me it took major and total rebuilding of the entire rear chassis to get it all in place. First time Pantera owner bought a 98 point car for about $70K and Steve figures the finished car will have every nut, bolt and washer removed/restored and raise the car's cost to about $200K.

The kicker? The new owner intends to make it his daily driver !!

THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

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The gearing is exactly what attracted me to the unit.

My personal opinion is that first gear ratio in the car, with the stock -2, should be numerically higher, i.e., around 2.70:1. The 2.58 first gear is much better then the stock 2.20.

The 2.58 with the 4.22 rear gives a better range of torque ratio for a launch that can use the torque of the 351.

Hall went the other way which works also. He installed the 5.37:1 rear in the -2 with the 2.20 first gear and went sub 10's in the quarter.

What is the proper torque ratio for a performance car? Simple. Multiply the first gear x the rear ratio. The product should be in the 11 to 15 area.

First gear from RBT is around $900. That's a lot cheaper then $3000 for a ring and pinion and doesn't kill the top end.

Anyway, the 6 speed had a couple of better first gear ratios available as well as fifth and and sixth.

Anyone got a 2.58 first gear for sale? That would help me out some.
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