12 min Video from Brazil

Great!!!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by goodroc:
I tried to search the Forum to see if this Video was previously posted. I didn't come across it so hope it is not old news..........

I have NEVER seen anyone power shift a ZF like this? This guy can drive. Shifts as fast as a paddle shifter!

I'm wondering if there is a cable shifter in this car?

Chris? Is that your shifter at work?

SANTA! I WANT ONE TOO!

There is ZERO play in that shift mechanism and the clutch is releasing perfectly even HOT.

Who the heck is the mechanic here? God? Yikes?



Those straight speeds are right around 200 in a couple of spots. That flat out whine is right there momentarily. He blows by other cars like they are standing still.

This engine is around 700hp. It has to be. It just responds to quickly not to be.

I would say he is running with the "big guys" but he is the big guy on the track "today"!

I don't know what he is using for tires but I didn't see even one squiggle setting up for a turn?

The engine has just the right scream at top rpm!


Who said recently his car reminded a former CanAm driver of the cars back in the day? THIS IS WHY. This IS how those cars accelerated 1,000 pounds lighter and with 150 more cubic inches.

Driving this Pantera will likely give ME concussion syndrome. I don't know about you but I can feel my brain sloshing around in there already?


Love it.

Agree...totally Doug. That vid was great to watch. That boy certainly knows his way around Interlagos...that's for certain.

Totally agree with Doug and Rob! I was surprised by how quickly and easily he blew past what appeared to be smaller and lighter dedicated track/race cars! And yes, he sure can drive. Most racing videos featuring Panteras show the Pantera getting a little loose in the turns. I felt like I playing a PS4 racing game while watching it, except that I never do that well.

Would love to know more about this car if anyone recognizes it or knows more info.

Cheers!
Garth

Here's another favorite - Greg Esakoff at Willow Springs racing the Killer Bee Porsche...

Yes, Mine shifts just like that now, but it don't go like that!
I had to watch it on my smart T.V., this driver is phenomenal, very fast driver, love seeing him blow by everybody like their stopped!

I gotta' get one of those shifters. That's unreal.

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Originally posted by garth66:

Would love to know more about this car if anyone recognizes it or knows more info.

Cheers!
Garth

There was a write-up on the build of this car in a past PI magazine. From the article, it was shown with twin-turbos (which certainly explains the sound and the speed in the video) and inter-coolers stuffed along either side of the engine. As I recall, there was also mention the owner/builder was connected with a DTM race team.

Greg Esakoff's Pantera (in the second video) was at that time still w/o a rear wing and I believe still running DOT (Hoosier) tires. I'm sure all those P cars were running slicks and big wings ;-) They were fast in the corners, but watching Greg's car on the back or front straight at WIR, made it look like everyone else was parked!

Dave

Had to chuckle at the interior passenger door handle being "drilled" for weight saving!

In comparison, notice how MUCH the driver fights the steering wheel vs the first video!

Yes it is unreal how fast he is going, here is another "Hero" I saw David race his Shelby Cobra in 2014 Le Mans Classic where I believe he finished 2nd after one GT40. This Video is from 2012 and unfortunately I haven't been able to find one from 2014. But it kind of gives an idea about the Drivers skills..........

I have to practice my shifting. This is getting ridiculous?

Downshifting in the rain going into a turn is so delicate that I choose not to, even dry, and just downshift coming out of the turn to accelerate hard. Better have your rpm right or there goes the transmission?

I guess I can't drive?

Maybe I need an automatic?

That one is also cool. Fun to watch. He certainly had his hands full compared to Interlagos man. His tail end was loose as a goose... Hell...he was loose at 140mph... he's got great big brass ones in my book...he stayed in the trottle and best I can tell...passed everything out there.

Great to see, can't help it ,but I always have mixed feelings about high end classic racing. I know they are race cars and supposed to be driven hard, but hey you dont take out the Mona Lisa on a picnic do you?

71 Pantera pushbutton
Porsche 968 conv
One off single seater track day car
Subaru Impreza 430 pk
Mgf

Doug, Beverly Hills Car Club sells them with automatics all the time...maybe you can grab yourself one....

I certainly don't have brassy enough ones to let it hang out at 140 like that one dude... so maybe we can get a group rate for the driving lessons.

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Originally posted by Rob Borruso:
Doug, Beverly Hills Car Club sells them with automatics all the time...maybe you can grab yourself one....

I certainly don't have brassy enough ones to let it hang out at 140 like that one dude... so maybe we can get a group rate for the driving lessons.

Teflon. The replacement ones are made from Teflon, not brass.

Shifting lessons, not driving. I had a shift lever come off in my hands the last time I power shifted.

I was impressed with the paddle shifter in the current Porsche Cayman. I couldn't even think as fast as it shifts, but you need good thumbs.

davek, on the second video, on the big screen, I could swear he's running Weber's?
Doug, hands off your shiftier when watching.

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Originally posted by pantera chris:
I could swear he's running Weber's?

Yes, I think so, some times the exhaust pops a little when you step off of the throttle suddenly on a car with big tube headers and Webers.

I think I heard that.



Difficult to get the idle jets just right. 70's are too big 60's too small. Mine are 65s drilled out to 67s. So far so good.

I have another setup to try. Just because it works in another setup doesn't mean it will work in yours?



I'm not playing with my shifter watching, I'm holding a puke bucket.

I am not a good passenger at speed especially in the rain.
Driving is a different story though.

I don't even hear the passenger screaming? My wife beat on my shoulder once to get my attention.

That was ONLY 115 @ 5,500 rpm.

She left her finger nails in my dashboard. They are still there.


Riding in a Cobra at speed? Been there...done that. The Cobra side pipes after a 180 mph run made me dizzy...BUT I was just a passenger.

427sc CSX3036 or 37? forget which one. Not Smiths. He only took the chicks for rides. Forget about driving the car.

8,200 rpm down the straights. The fuel pressure gauge was pulsing back and forth from zero to 7 like a clock ticking.

That was mesmerizing. Maybe it hypnotized me?
Nope. Right ear just started up throbbing again just from watching the video.

No more motorcycles, roadsters or convertibles for me.

Ka-blouie on the ear drums now! I can't even be on a roof now. Broken ear drums give me vertigo?



The Pantera works though. Cabin is quiet. All the noise killing people is behind me.

3" straight through mufflers on the 180s.

I can listen to the stero? My son says the car IS loud. Go figure?

Our group from the central coast, took off for the races in Palm Spring.
When we hit Pomona the rains came.
The Pantera at 70 in the rain on the freeway brings band new meaning to the word "hydroplaning" and if you have not seen the water shooting out of the sail opening in a driving rain, it's like a trio of fire hoses exiting out the top of the sail,can you say pucker? and I don't mean with your lips, that brave soul in the Cobra exhibited unreal control of his car, great driving!

quote:

Originally posted by pantera chris:
Our group from the central coast, took off for the races in Palm Spring.
When we hit Pomona the rains came.
The Pantera at 70 in the rain on the freeway brings band new meaning to the word "hydroplaning" and if you have not seen the water shooting out of the sail opening in a driving rain, it's like a trio of fire hoses exiting out the top of the sail,can you say pucker? and I don't mean with your lips, that brave soul in the Cobra exhibited unreal control of his car, great driving!

Death is Natures way of saying slow down?

You need the original size/profile tires for the car to handle reasonably in very wet conditions.

The nature of the mid-engine design makes the car inherently stable but when you reduce the load on the tire by increasing the width of the tire patch it doesn't give you more grip, you get less.

I personally find that the Pantera makes a GREAT bobsled but pushing it back up the hill after the run is a bummer?