Poor HK seemed pretty crushed....
What a terrible way to advertise a supercar.
Rocky
Hunter posted another YouTube video a couple of days ago. It was centered around three Porsches his father is storing at the new 2018 Pantera dealership building.
While Hunter has been stopped from doing any more 2018 Pantera updates, he did manage to include some Pantera content as he filmed the entry door and a large wall mural while entering the dealership building.
Larry
While Hunter has been stopped from doing any more 2018 Pantera updates, he did manage to include some Pantera content as he filmed the entry door and a large wall mural while entering the dealership building.
Larry
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Hi.
Are there anybody who has any update on this
Kjeld.
Are there anybody who has any update on this
Kjeld.
quote:Originally posted by LF - TP 2511:
Hunter posted another YouTube video a couple of days ago. It was centered around three Porsches his father is storing at the new 2018 Pantera dealership building.
While Hunter has been stopped from doing any more 2018 Pantera updates, he did manage to include some Pantera content as he filmed the entry door and a large wall mural while entering the dealership building.
Larry
I spoke with Steve Wilkinson today about this.
The pathway to the 2018 Pantera, and other similar ventures, is recent legislation allowing new replica cars to be produced in limited numbers - 250?? per builder - but they must be equipped with current year engines.
According to Steve, the CARB (California Air Resources Bureau) rules and regulations have not been finalized. Government moves slowly, when it moves at all. Hong Kong DeTomaso (HKDT) intended to use 2017 Ford motors, but due to the regulatory delays, have cancelled their order for 25 2017 engines.
Ford will supply HKDT the 2018 engines, but not prior to their Ford introduction. Likely end of 2018 until they are available for HKDT. That engine is about 3" taller than the 2017 engine previously selected, but apparently the 2018 Pantera can be re-engineered for that increased height.
Steve thinks the final body prototype may become a reality in early 2018, as it continues to progress at the builder in South Africa.
So:
Body not finalized
Rules and regulations to allow production not finalized
Preferred engines not available until late 2018
Sorry guys, I suggest you ask Santa for something else for this year.
Larry
The pathway to the 2018 Pantera, and other similar ventures, is recent legislation allowing new replica cars to be produced in limited numbers - 250?? per builder - but they must be equipped with current year engines.
According to Steve, the CARB (California Air Resources Bureau) rules and regulations have not been finalized. Government moves slowly, when it moves at all. Hong Kong DeTomaso (HKDT) intended to use 2017 Ford motors, but due to the regulatory delays, have cancelled their order for 25 2017 engines.
Ford will supply HKDT the 2018 engines, but not prior to their Ford introduction. Likely end of 2018 until they are available for HKDT. That engine is about 3" taller than the 2017 engine previously selected, but apparently the 2018 Pantera can be re-engineered for that increased height.
Steve thinks the final body prototype may become a reality in early 2018, as it continues to progress at the builder in South Africa.
So:
Body not finalized
Rules and regulations to allow production not finalized
Preferred engines not available until late 2018
Sorry guys, I suggest you ask Santa for something else for this year.
Larry
This is the first mention of the 2018 Hong Kong Pantera I have seen in automotive press.
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-...-pantera-design.html
Larry
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-...-pantera-design.html
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How does one obtain a patent on a previously manufactured design, what is new and novel?
Novelty is very strictly defined by patent law referring to originality of the idea. A supposed invention cannot be patented if the invention was known or used by others before the patent applicant invented it or if it is a modification or advance that would be obvious to a person skilled in the area. Perhaps European patent law is less stringent and that's why they filed there? Or are they just trying to preempt and quash others ability to execute on designs that seem to have popped up of late e.g. Ares Design
If those renderings are representative of ride height, then this must be the "Baja" version....
Julian
Novelty is very strictly defined by patent law referring to originality of the idea. A supposed invention cannot be patented if the invention was known or used by others before the patent applicant invented it or if it is a modification or advance that would be obvious to a person skilled in the area. Perhaps European patent law is less stringent and that's why they filed there? Or are they just trying to preempt and quash others ability to execute on designs that seem to have popped up of late e.g. Ares Design
If those renderings are representative of ride height, then this must be the "Baja" version....
Julian
It's a true giggle reading about something from China being "patented", given their enormous bazaars in all major cities for ripped-off DVDs, devices, designs etc. When did they begin paying the slightest attention to international law?
Second thought: the last Pantera of that shape was built by DeTomaso in about 1989; maybe they think the original 1970 design, now 48 yrs old, has been "abandoned"?
Second thought: the last Pantera of that shape was built by DeTomaso in about 1989; maybe they think the original 1970 design, now 48 yrs old, has been "abandoned"?
Anyone who has a public company worth nothing and then claims its be "acquired" by a big company, which turns out to be a complete lie, is a lying piece of shit.
That is a clear indication of how he ( and probably his father) made their money.
I'll bet they make a mess of the new Detomaso but will probably stuff their pockets with cash.
That is a clear indication of how he ( and probably his father) made their money.
I'll bet they make a mess of the new Detomaso but will probably stuff their pockets with cash.
So what's the latest here? All is quiet on the western front!
Besides the fact that most of us thought it was a scam from the get go and nothing has changed to cause us to not still believe the same?
Steve Wilkinson is in contact with Tom Kim and has previously spoken freely with me about the venture. He may have an update?
Larry
Steve Wilkinson is in contact with Tom Kim and has previously spoken freely with me about the venture. He may have an update?
Larry