I fell in love with the Pantera in 1971, back then it had a specific look. I have no interest in altering its appearance (I prefer the Pre-L appearance). I want the car to be my daily driver until my license is revoked (due to age). Like those of you who want to DRIVE your cars, I wrestle between originality and practicality. Tires and wheels are one of the big issues.

I have a set of OEM wheels stacked in my storage unit. I also have Wilwood 4 piston brakes (12.19 rotors) that fit within the original wheels. But in terms of daily driving, I prefer something other than BF Goodrich tires for my mid-engine Italian sports car.

I have been considering the wheels below:

TSW Nurburgring

It is a super-strong rotary forged wheel, available in three finishes. I've had my eye on 18x8.5 (20mm offset) front and 20x10.5 (25mm offset) rear. These wheels would match tires in sizes 245/35ZR18 front and 295/30ZR20 rear. There are 8 tire sets currently available in those sizes on The Tire Rack website.

The front wheels would only require 4mm spacers (to achieve 16mm offset), the rear wheels only 7mm spacers (to achieve 18mm offset). The spacers are so thin the wheels shouldn't require longer studs. BUT … the open wheel design would require an upgrade in brakes to look its best. Scott at SACC would be there to help in that concern (providing Wilwood brakes) … and I wouldn't mind the appearance OR performance of low profile tires and large cross-drilled brakes. Would you?

Chuck (Rocky) has mentioned interest in wheels that look like this. So I'm calling this particular wheel to his attention. And of course, several of you may have the same opinion as Chuck. Anyway this wheel is available from TSW with bolt patterns that fit the Pantera (5x114.3mm) in many diameters, widths, offsets; and in 3 finishes.

Here's a link: https://www.tsw.com/alloy_wheels_nurburgring.php

-G

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I went by and talked to a distributor.

The wheels in this size are available with a ~6 day lead time.

Pricing:

Front: 18 x 8.5" $288 ea.

Rear:  20 x 10.5" $368 ea.

Not too bad actually.  I didn't inquire about tires (I should have).

 

My current technical question is:  The risk of the studs being long enough with the spacers...  I would prefer not to get into a "stud replacement" project, that could be a lot of work...

 

My current aesthetic question (which I have to answer) is:  How will these look on a Pantera with the ribs fully positioned on the outside of the tire?  It's illustrated in Jan's picture, above.  Based on a lot of the wheels used on our cars (and that I have grown used to), the wheel centers are inset into the tires, sometimes quite deeply.  The TSW configuration is a bit different than I had in my mind.

 

I know there is a thread on wheel fitment pictures, I need to spend some tome browsing it, and see some similar examples.  I went to the TSW site, but they don't have a Pantera in their library of cars....

 

Thanks again, George for pointing this option out.  

 

 

If you are talking about your preference to have the spokes more concave maybe ask that wheel builder about your preference and see if those particular ones can be built like that. For instance on my pewter MBZ above you can see the rear wheel has more of a concave appearance compared to the front but I think that's because of the different offsets required where the front can't be built very deep for that car. Plus if you have a stock body Pantera I am not sure how concave you can go anyway, especially on the front. Its worth asking the builder though or look into other wheels that have more of a concave look. If you need to use spacers I would think that would limit some of your concave ability anyway by pushing the center out even more. On my red MBZ below I ordered the deepest concave I could get, but even then you can see there was a limit of the front concave depth vs rear. Yeah before you buy try and do some wheel photoshop onto a photo of your car, it won't be perfect but at least it would still give you some idea. No good buying something that when on your car you end up not liking it...ugh. Some places will also place various wheels right next to your car to give somewhat of a visual too, if they have some in stock. Not a perfect view, but better than none at all.

SL65 With ADVO5DC Wheels

Chuck, my spacer recommendation is based on achieving 20mm inset for both front and rear tires. The inexpensive one piece wheels are produced in a bunch of offsets for modern cars. TSW has some of the smallest offsets out there, thus they have wheels that can be adapted for Panteras using typically thin spacers.

The front spacer is only 4mm, definitely won't need longer studs. The rear spacer is 7mm, it may need longer studs, it may not. Depends upon how much thread engagement remains … which depends upon how thick the wheel flanges are. Won't know until you buy them.

You could opt for 24mm inset, the front would need no spacer at all, the rear only 3mm.  Try that first, if you decide you don't like the look of the wheels & tires inset that much, move the spacers to the front, and buy another pair of 6mm spacers for the rear.

If you want to see the wheels on "a car" (obviously not a Pantera) at the TSW website select an Audi TT.

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