Calliper anti vibration plates

Richard, IIRC they are different than the Pantera. The good thing is our brakes are Girling, so you can find components locally (UK)in your case. try crosthwaiteandgardiner.com or http://www.sngbarratt.com


Denis

Denis you are what i call "the BOAK" (book of all knowledge) sorry to keep asking but you all seem to have far more experience than me, especially finding things - all i can assume that you have spent ages researching. Thanks again for your help. I will post some pics soon of work done so far. Richard.

I've never heard Denis called THAT before, but you are right that he is a great source of knowledge about all things Mangusta. Between him, Steve L, Johnny Woods and a few others, the rest of us can sleep at night!

Mark

good luck on Crosswaite, I asked them for these (anti-rattle plates) with no success...I ended up sourcing a bit shorter ones from a TR3A..looks like they will just work...Lee

Lee you are right, i have got the same result. I can get them re-manufactured but they want to do a larger number off. I have managed to acquire a few sheets of various strength spring steel, tomorrow i have arranged to get them laser cut then the fun begins - i am going to try to bend them into shape! Think heat to allow bending then re-harden (heat and quench) see how it goes, i will keep you posted. Apparently the callipers are a race calliper and originally only used the triangular retaining plate, the anti rattle plate they say is aftermarket (unknown to girling) because these callipers are/were for use in racing and rattle of pads would not be an issue. So i am told? Richard

...at least with my 3 piston fronts, I think the pads would just fall out without these ! The 2 piston versions had the giant triangle, attached is a picture from 8ma1046...The triangle bracket from 8mA1076 (just 15 cars later, but different brakes !) is a different shape.

brakes from 1076 shown below....these are the 3 piston parts, part numbers 64320163/64325110

...btw, just to wash away that bitter taste of 40 year old rust, here is a sweet taste of the dessert...after disassembly, bead blasting, plating, new seals, stainless pistons, new piping...I kept these on my kitchen counter for weeks, they just looked so good

split halves...

Thanks, great pics and ideas! Here is a Girling ORA rear from 1010, w/ one anti-rattle plate missing. Regards to all, Nate

ALRIGHT!!!! People gettin' busy with BRAKES!!!! Good work!!!

I think that the spring steel, with a proper die or press form, should take the little bit of bending that is needed to put the "V" in the material of the anti rattle pieces.

As was pointed out, the other triangular pieces are closer to 3/32" thick and retain the pads. The larger stamped piece is indeed spring steel and keeps the pads from rattling....but are not needed if they are missing.....

These were "quick change" pads! (or calipers..)

Keep up the good work guys!!! You'll be on the road in no time!

Just remember, only clean parts on kitchen surfaces...no grungy bits!!!

Steve

Lee,

so 1076 came with the three piston front brakes??????

What are the piston dimensions? (if you have access to them!)

I have a seal kit for a Group5 Pantera caliper, which I believe was a 3 piston front caliper also, but may or may not be larger than what you have, which is why I ask!

I'd always heard about the 3 piston front version, just never seen one on a Goose yet!!!

Yea!
Steve

Steve, I don't suppose you've been holding your breath on my reply , but just for the record--
- the pistons on the Girling 17/3 are 60mm and 43mm.
- As I can tell, brakes changed around 8ma1056 or later--at least, pictures on Provamo show that '1056 had the 2 piston aluminum brakes, and by my '1076 they had gone to the Girling 17/3 and 12/3.
- The 3C brakes were used for years on all Maserati (until Merak/Bora), plus Lamborghini, Aston (including the V8 AMS thru the 70's), and documentation says S2 Jaguar. Or at least, castings continued to change but service kits were the same SP2577. You can even get the steel pistons on Rockauto for $12 (of course, I went stainless). http://www.vintagelamborghini....irling/brakxr11.html

- Us lucky guys with heavy iron brake calipers can also get rattle plates from Maseratinet...Maserati part was 58699, later (Ghibli/Indy) had ventilated discs and so used a spacer between left/right caliper castings, so I believe the right ones for Goose are the "narrow" ones used starting on the 3500GT...
https://www.maseratinet.com//p...e-spring-narrow.aspx

--I think brake hoses (at least rear) also shared with Aston DB6, aka GHP-71.

great reference, the mother of all Girling in the 60's here.

Lee,

OK! Finally I can breathe again.....!!!

Great info you've dug up here on the clips and calipers. I knew the 12/3 (rear style) were used on a few cars (like mine!) but not too common. I'd heard about the 17/3's up front and on the Group5 Panteras(???) but never run across them on the Goose but for rumors & whispers....

If all the cars around 1076 and up got the 3 piston cast iron behemoths....that's about a quarter of the production run which is significant!

I confirmed that the SP2524 seal kit is the same as I found for the 12/3 rear calipers.

What did you find for the seal kit for the 17/3 fronts???? (I didn't see anything in the XLS doc that I could decipher...but hard to tell from the list unless you know the caliper assembly part number....and the magic decoder ring is missing.....!) All I could tell, is that the 12/3's were used up front on the 3500 GT's?

Amazing that those small 12/3 pistons are so easy to find now..... I had to order them from the UK and a club member hauled them back here in '96-97 or so!

Cheers!

Rear kits (for the 12/3) are the SP 2524 (SP2577 are for the big fronts). On 1076, none of the markings are Fiat (only Girling). See earlier discussion on this, at least Denis still had 2 piston rears...!

http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/...562/m/1661053146/p/2

I saw the pictures of the handbrake caliper, and it looks suspiciously like the one on my Jensen Interceptor Mk 111.

the main calipers look different, but PERHAPS this might be of some value... If not - I apologize for cluttering up this post.

Disassembled

Lee,
OK, typing too early in the morning....

I had my notes a bit jumbled and got the kit numbers messed up...old notes....old eyeballs! Corrected in post above also..... Thanks for catching this!

I also suspect there may be more than one kit# for some of these calipers......

Rocky,
OK, your bits shown reveal that Girling musta made at least three types of this hand brake linkage over the years......

The Goose type used on the 12/3 AND the ORA (2 piston) calipers of stamped steel variety, perhaps an early verion with cast arms holding the pads, and now your variety of stamped pieces.

Cheers!