California to rely on 100% clean electricity by 2045 under bill signed by Gov. Jerry Brown
quote:Originally posted by Brickdrifter:
Sadly, not only California. Here in Belgium, part of Europe, they are also thinking of only selling full electric or at least hybrid cars from 2035 on.
What surprises me is that no one is telling what a environmental impact making the batteries have.
I'm not sure it is the answer yet.
But California has always been the front runner on exhaust emmisions. ;-)
quote:Originally posted by RRS1:
Just a couple of quick thoughts.
No way batteries will be able to replace engines. There's a limited amount of lithium in the world.
So no gas? I guess there will be a mass exodus of really good collector, and other great cars out of California. No more car envy for Californians.
Get ready for a massive utility rate increase.
quote:Originally posted by gilles027:
Good news for the coal miners.
Coal will be burned to generate E for the EV cars with a 25% efficience overall.
Yeah, that's green that's environmental saviour. Glad to know US politicans as stupid as european ones. Congrats guys, welcome in the boat of stupidity.
quote:The politicians here play off of the people that support them. We have people in American that have completely bought into the global warming theory and feel that if we don't stop burning fossil fuel now, then we will go past the point of no return and we are all going to die! People somehow seem to overlook the fact that when the sun goes down and the wind doesn't blow, all the nice clean energy goes away and they are then using fossil fuel generated electricity.
quote:Originally posted by Mat_G:quote:The politicians here play off of the people that support them. We have people in American that have completely bought into the global warming theory and feel that if we don't stop burning fossil fuel now, then we will go past the point of no return and we are all going to die! People somehow seem to overlook the fact that when the sun goes down and the wind doesn't blow, all the nice clean energy goes away and they are then using fossil fuel generated electricity.
..and then we generate engery by COAL!! woow
..we might get the dirty stuff out of the big towns/Cities BUT IF WE GENERATE by Coal or any carbon we do the same thing..well in the "wilderness" from a city standpoint.
..in Europe a mess and driven by un-capable politicians..(TX Gilles..). all driven by lobbies from industries..what a strange world..even here truth is not truth necessarily..
quote:California imports coal generated electricity from Nevada, Utah and Arizona. How strange that they don't want it in their State, but are fine with getting it from somewhere else.
quote:Jerry Brown's "clean power" policy was made to oppose Donald Trump's "pro-coal" policies.
...........Perhaps. Or, just maybe, this policy was made to stand in harmony with the rest of the planet's nations that are taking active steps to decrease Mankind's impact on the planet's climate.
Gov. Brown has displayed defiance towards president Trump since he was elected as president.
...........He has a lot of company, and logically so, as the popular vote was NOT won by Trump.
Brown's policies promote the agenda of the people who financially backed him in his campaign for governor.
...........And Trump's policies promote the agenda of the industries who financially backed him in his campaign for president.
This state's politics is unfortunately a 50/50 mix of extreme right and extreme left.
quote:Originally posted by LF - TP 2511:
Reality is this state is currently the FIFTH largest economy in the WORLD. And we didn't get here by following the status quo; we got here with forward-thinking actions and legislation.