Looking for Pre-L exhaust manifolds, no cracks or welding.
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I think I have one or 2 sets
I have the same as on the pictures from Rocky.
how looks Pre-L headers ?
Approximately 100% of the original stamped steel headers cracked thru the sheet webbing between the tubes from heat expansion. We all got tired of the constant, unsafe exhaust leaks right next to the fuel tank and threw them away, substituting full-tube GTS headers from the Euro cars that did not crack. I've not seen a set on a Pantera that actually ran since the last century, that wasn't rewelded in at least one place. This cost saving mess was NOT one of Ford's "better ideas"!
In the black-cover Parts & Accessories Manual published in 1985, on pg 34 are shown the FIVE different series of factory Pantera exhaust headers with matching mufflers 1971-1985. #5 is for GTS/GT-5. There was also a separate factory gutted muffler for the Euro Gr-3. The sheet metal version Judge is referring to is version #4 for a one-piece rear bumper car, used only in the US (I think).
Thank you for the information Bosswrench. Yes, I do think Rocky's photos are of Series 4 "L" manifolds. Regarding the cost-cutting by Ford, I believe that all 4 series were specially designed by Ansa for Alejandro.
The ones I am looking for do not have the webbing.
I have a pair, but a crack was repaired on one of them, so ugly weld bead, but can't really see when installed. They were blasted and are painted black so not rusted. I would have to say if you're looking for basically a new pair, not cracked, I've never seen it. I can send pictures if interested.
Or you could get a new set from Mr. Fiat.
No sorry , I dont have those .
Interesting. Had not seen a set of those before.
Thanks for the pictures.
Am guessing you are trying to return a car to 100% original?
Not exactly. The stock Ansa exhaust manifolds provably cannot handle the pressures of the 351 Cleveland, with or without webbing. I'm running tubular headers through stock Ansa exhaust. I'm also redoing my interior with tan Daytona seats and matching door panels. Not a fan of all black interiors. Otherwise, I'm trying to keep the stock appearance with all the necessary upgrades.