What adhesive is recommended for the headliner?
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I used 3M Rubber and Vinyl 80 Spray Adhesive. I recycled the old headliner since it's the thin foam backing that deteriorates. I cleaned the old foam off of the roof and the headliner and had an upholstery shop cement new foam (maybe 1/16th inch thick)on the old headliner. Re-installation took two of us and was done with reference marks on the roof and on the headliner. It was done in sections (not cut apart but glued separately). The glue was sprayed on the roof and on the headliner. You only have one 5 second chance to reset the liner once attached to the roof so the reference marks are vital. It turned out great for me.
I did my headliner last year using the method that Pantera 4134 used.
I was able to reuse my original headliner after cleaning it with Simple Green and it turned out perfectly. Using the poster board and gluing the headliner to it makes this a 1 man job.
I used my headliner as a template to cut the poster board as the original indentations where the trim panels fit were clearly visible, which made things even easier.
Here is Pantera 4134's method:
"Like most of you, the need for repairing our fallen headliner is one of those projects that sooner or later we all tackle. I have read all of the posts and gotten some good advice. Various ideas from gluing to a plastic board or directly to the roof were considered. A local trim shop here in Atlanta gave me an idea that worked for me and was easy and inexpensive.
At an office supply store I purchased a white foam display board (40x60x3/16) it is two pieces of poster board with a foam inner piece. It is also light weight, flexible, and easy to cut. After removing what was left of the old foam from the headliner with Simple Green and scraping the roof with a plastic scraper (also a shop vac works well) I was ready to fit the foam board. I rough cut the board with a utility knife until it fit with in the cavity provided by the side supports and front braces. Next I used 3M 80/90 trim adhesive. (NAPA)This is an adhesive used for vinyl tops or heavy headliner installations. I glued the headliner to the board. After 24 hours to assure good strength I reinstalled the board. The board will stay up by the trim panels and could be easily removed if necessary. The cost of this was about ten bucks for the board and another ten for the adhesive. Time wise it took about three hours. I think the foam will be of some help as an insulator and sound deadener."
I was able to reuse my original headliner after cleaning it with Simple Green and it turned out perfectly. Using the poster board and gluing the headliner to it makes this a 1 man job.
I used my headliner as a template to cut the poster board as the original indentations where the trim panels fit were clearly visible, which made things even easier.
Here is Pantera 4134's method:
"Like most of you, the need for repairing our fallen headliner is one of those projects that sooner or later we all tackle. I have read all of the posts and gotten some good advice. Various ideas from gluing to a plastic board or directly to the roof were considered. A local trim shop here in Atlanta gave me an idea that worked for me and was easy and inexpensive.
At an office supply store I purchased a white foam display board (40x60x3/16) it is two pieces of poster board with a foam inner piece. It is also light weight, flexible, and easy to cut. After removing what was left of the old foam from the headliner with Simple Green and scraping the roof with a plastic scraper (also a shop vac works well) I was ready to fit the foam board. I rough cut the board with a utility knife until it fit with in the cavity provided by the side supports and front braces. Next I used 3M 80/90 trim adhesive. (NAPA)This is an adhesive used for vinyl tops or heavy headliner installations. I glued the headliner to the board. After 24 hours to assure good strength I reinstalled the board. The board will stay up by the trim panels and could be easily removed if necessary. The cost of this was about ten bucks for the board and another ten for the adhesive. Time wise it took about three hours. I think the foam will be of some help as an insulator and sound deadener."
Be very careful putting the screws that hold that back piece (that holds the dome light)back on. they screw up into the roof and if not careful, the screws will hit the roof skin causing a dent in your roof skin. Don't ask me how I know that. Fortunately my car was stripped for paint at the time. thank GOD.
quote:Originally posted by garth66:
3M 8090
Here's my headliner restoration:
http://www.banzairunnerpantera...chinfo_headliner.htm
Just tried to source a can of the 8090 here in England, it is available at £60 per can!!!
how much is it in the USA please?
Oh, it's about $2.
(J/K)
(J/K)
I felt bad about my joke, so I looked it up.
It's about $40
http://m.ebay.com/itm/360922348284?_mwBanner=1
It's about $40
http://m.ebay.com/itm/360922348284?_mwBanner=1
To answer your original question, Peter, use a HIGH-TEMP glue; aerosol sprays are far more convenient to use. The headliner is glued directly onto a steel panel that in summer sunshine can reach 140F or the temp of too-hot-to-drink coffee or tea. So ordinary glues soften, melt and your new headliner falls down around your ears, sometimes while you're driving. 3M "90" is the higher temp material, if available in your area. I use a lot of it. Dunno if it can be shipped to England successfully in this day & age.
Thanks for the tip 3m 90 IS available here and only £17, a big difference from £60
hope the pasted clip works???http://www.amazon.co.uk/3M-Scotch-Weld-90-Powerful-Spray-/dp/B00CCA43FO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1448663761&sr=8-2&keywords=3M+90
the clip didn't work but at least I know whats going to adhere the headlining permanently.
hope the pasted clip works???http://www.amazon.co.uk/3M-Scotch-Weld-90-Powerful-Spray-/dp/B00CCA43FO/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1448663761&sr=8-2&keywords=3M+90
the clip didn't work but at least I know whats going to adhere the headlining permanently.