When I first got my car one of the things that needed attention was a broken wheel stud. I bought one from a Pantera vendor and it was very expensive.
The inside edge of my front tires just brush the inner wheel well. I'd like to put 3/8" spacers between the front wheels and hubs, but there are not enough threads on the studs to allow the lug nuts to have enough bite to be safe.
Has anyone identified a generic wheel stud that fits a Pantera hub? If I'm buying 10 of them, the cost is going to be pretty high if I have to go to a vendor. Like a couple hundred dollars. I know there are some longer studs available from the vendors, but I could sure use a substitute.
If there is no substitute, does anybody know offhand how much longer than stock the vendors wheel studs are?
Thanks, Mooso.
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How about changing over to the vented mustang style rotors that come with studs threaded US 1/2"-20?

Then you could get your longer studs about anywhere, but your Pantera logo nuts won't fit.
The wheel studs for the wide body cars (group4/gt5/gt5s) are longer. You can get them from Precision ProFormance.
I'm not aware of any cheap substitutes, you might ask Jack Deryke. Jack is pretty good at coming up with solutions to these kind of problems.
Some questions before you add spacers:

1. What is the width and back space of your wheels?
2. What size tires you are using?
3. Where and when do the tires rub?

Mike
The wheels were ordered in the first Kodiak group wheel buy. Kodiak had no information on Panteras, so we were left to our own devices to figure out the backsets for narrow and wide bodied cars. Kodiak promised me several times that they would not make the wheels until there was a review of the backsets submitted by the others in the buy. Unfortunately, they did not do this and my wheels came as I ordered them.
The back wheels are perfect, but the fronts are inset a little too much and rub at full lock. Obviously if I'm at full lock while driving, I'm in trouble! But I thought I'd relieve the rubbing problem and kick them out a bit (for looks) at the same time.
I don't want to buy new tires because these fit the wheels perfectly and they are nearly brand new. I also don't want to change the offset because that would mean buying two new wheels, or disassembling mine and changing the inner and outer rims...all costly solutions.
I also have fairly new Wilwood brakes and rotors, so I don't want to go to Mustang parts.
Since I had to remove and replace the wheel studs when I put on the Wilwood rotors, I know this job can be done quickly.
Thanks, Mooso.
I’m so sorry to hear about your wheel problem. If you are running 8” wide front wheels the backspace is absolutely critical or you will have rubbing problems. I’d rather have some rubbing at full lock at slow speed than havening the wheel catch the fender lip at high speed though. Being almost handmade each Pantera will have slightly different clearance issues as well. The Pantera venders have done a lot of work to make sure their wheels fit, it is a delicate dance. Keep in mind that the Pantera wheels are hub centric so your spacers will need to account for that.

Mike
Has anyone treid contacting ARP and sending them a stud?.. See if they can do a run of 5000 studs??...
Mike,
What do you mean by "hub centric"? I'm not familiar with the term and don't know how this would affect the spacer design. Maybe I don't want to use spacers afterall!
Thanks, Mooso.
Mooso,

My GT5 rubs on full lock, but I wouldn't want to try and move the wheel out any further as it would rub the flare too much (which it already does on a a hard pothole)

As Kevin said the GT5 studs are longer, but run about $25 ea. if I recall correctly. Larry Stock had a 'Nascar' stud he was selling that is somewhere between a stock narrow body and a Gt5 stud lenghth I think.

Spacers shouldn't be an issue, they were used on some GT4/5 cars from Factory, hence the requirement for longer studs.

The alternative is to find a stud with the same spline size to lock into the hub/hats. The thread doesn't matter too much if you are prepared to purchase wheel nuts as well, but then you probably will have spent as much as longer studs from a vendor.
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Originally posted by mooso:
Mike,
What do you mean by "hub centric"? I'm not familiar with the term and don't know how this would affect the spacer design. Maybe I don't want to use spacers afterall!
Thanks, Mooso.


The Pantera front hub and the back axel have a machined hub that fits snugly inside the backside of the wheels to keep them perfectly aligned. The lug nuts just keep the wheel on the hub or axel and do not do the alignment.

Mike
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