I found a Euro GT5-S in the price range. Now what? HELP PLEASE!

Paul,

Maybe contact member 'Daniel #9191' he has just imported a GT5 from Canada and can probably provide details of the paperwork trail. Also read closely his post directly before yours in the "Ownership Issues" forum as by his account you won't get it into the US until it is 25 years old, so be prepared for a struggle.

Having said that it would be worth contacting Kirk Evans of Amerisport an original importer of GT5-S cars. His website is www.amerisportindustries.com e-mail: kre1[at]adelphia.net or telephone; 419.344.8148

Good luck
Julian

Also Coz, he imported your car Joules.

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Originally posted by Joules5:
...it would be worth contacting Kirk Evans of Amerisport an original importer of GT5-S cars...

The rules today are completely different and far more difficult than the '80s when Panteras were originally grey marketed into the US. FYI, Kirk did not grey market Panteras like the other importers did, his approach was quite inspired. He purchased new cars directly from the factory SANS the motor (he had factory connections that arranged this). He shipped them to the US, installed motors and became the manufacturer of record, that's why his Panteras are called Amerisports & not just Panteras like any other grey marketed Pantera.

However, as far as being one very savvy Pantera guy, Kirk is the man! He may have some ideas for you.

Hey George, that is exactly the way the Noble is being imported too. Kirk pioneered a way for small volume manufactures to survive. He is a unheralded genius. Nobel should have to pay him royalties. Superperformance too.

Well, I may have some luck. The car is an 82 Year. Exactly 25 yrs, depending on manufacturers date. The car may have to sit for a few months.

As well, I sent Daniel a P.M. regarding just that. Hopefully I can get this on the right track.

Anyway, I would like to comment on the community. The floows on here seem to be quite outgoing. I have belonged to other communities online (I.E. - Porsche) and the people take a while to resond if at all. So, thank you for the warm welcome and help. It is all greatly appreciated.

Paul

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Originally posted by PJKinVA:
Well, I may have some luck. The car is an 82 Year. Exactly 25 yrs, depending on manufacturers date. The car may have to sit for a few months.

As well, I sent Daniel a P.M. regarding just that. Hopefully I can get this on the right track.

Anyway, I would like to comment on the community. The fellows on here seem to be quite outgoing. I have belonged to other communities online (I.E. - Porsche) and the people take a while to respond if at all. So, thank you for the warm welcome and help. It is all greatly appreciated.

Paul

PKinVA:

I don't think its a GT5-S. They were introduced in 1984 thru 1990. Europe saw the 1989-1990 cars. That would mean that what you are looking at is a euro GT5. Would someone help me on this!!

Wayne // 87 GT5-S #9437 Amerisport

Paul,

You may want to call the factory and ask about the car (I assume you have the last 4 numbers of the VIN). Here's a recent quote from the DeTomaso list:

"If you want to get information about how the car was when it left the
factory, and who the initial customer was, you can simply call them in Italy and ask.
They run a pretty skeleton crew, so you will have to ask for either Isabelle
or Santiago De Tomaso personally, as nobody else there speaks English.

01139-0-598-48102

is their phone number. You may need to try several attempts before you get
to speak to sombody in English. And they might just pull the paperwork and FAX
it to you so have a good incoming FAX number ready to give to them."

This only applies to non-US cars. They have no records of the Ford cars.

Dan

Well, I am not all that experienced with Models and Years. I am still wet behind the ears. It is being sold from a private seller. The car is being touted as a 1982 GT5-S.

I asked in regards to the Vehicle Number as to verify just that. I plan on calling the factory once I receive the information.

In any matter, what is the major difference between the two? I was looking at some photos. Is the difference in the ground effects package. I saw some vehicles with Rocker Panels and others without.

Thanks.

Paul

The GT5 has fiberglass wheel well flares, running boards & spoiler

The GT5-S has steel wheel well flares that are more smoothly blended into the body work

Paul:

The GT5-S was only available from 1985-1990, 1988-1990 mostly outside the USA market. The EPA/DOT was very restrictive to get these cars into the US. This would make the GT5-S super rare (Amerisport production)and grey market cars. These cars are bringing a premiun if you can find one for sale. These cars command big dollars when in prestine condition. I would speculate that $90K-125K would be in line considering when did you read of one for sale, better still, see one on the street.

Just my 2c

Wayne

There are a lot more great pics of both GT5 and GT5S cars on the following website, along with pics of other DeTomaso cars.

http://www.qv500.com/detomasoregistry.php

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These cars are bringing a premiun if you can find one for sale. These cars command big dollars when in prestine condition. I would speculate that $90K-125K would be in line considering when did you read of one for sale, better still, see one on the street.

Curious. What recent sales do you base this on?

Paul:

Wayne is right. If the car you are looking at is a 1982 model year, then it is either a GT5 or a GTS. The GTS was produced concurrently with both the GT5 and then GT5-S Panteras. Production transitioned from the GT5 to the GT5-S in 1985 with chassis #9374 being the last of the GT5 production run (though not the last produced) and #9375 being the first GT5-S. The last GT5-S was #9562 which was built in 1990.

What is the chassis number of your car? Perhaps I have a listing for it and can give you some information.

The GT5 and the GT5-S were identical mechanically and in the interior. The only differences were in the body; the GT5 had fiberglass wheel flares, air dam and running boards, while the GT5-S had all-steel fenders with no running boards. The GTS had more narrow wheels and tires but the interior and, as far as I know, the mechanicals were the same as well.

I would recommend you purchase one of the good introductory books about the DeTomaso marque to familiarize yourself with the cars and their interesting histories. "DeTomaso: The Man and The Machines" by Wallace Alfred Wyss or the "Pantera Buyer's Guide" by Rob de la Rive Box and Matthew L. Stone would be the two I would suggest. There is also a new book just out by David & Linda Adler and Wallace Wyss called "DeTomaso Pantera" which, although I do not yet have it myself, I'm sure will be a very good introduction to the marque as well. You can buy it on the PI web site: http://www.panteracars.com/books10.html

Here is a photo of a 1987 GTS, for your reference.

Peter H and his GT5 at the Concorso Italiano

Jim C (goes by technosound) and his GT5-S at the Concorso Italiano

JK:

The last GT5-S sold was Terrys red/tan, twin turbo, EFI. If my memory serves me it turned hands for $85K. There is a 1990 euro GT5-S with very low miles (8500) RHD listed for US $125K. Again, there isn't much recent sales data, only gut feeling what the market will do if such a car was available.

Wayne

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Originally posted by JK:

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These cars are bringing a premiun if you can find one for sale. These cars command big dollars when in prestine condition. I would speculate that $90K-125K would be in line considering when did you read of one for sale, better still, see one on the street.

Curious. What recent sales do you base this on?

That just don't make any sense at all. Fiberglass has a running board but then when they got steel flares, no running boards?? I mean how do you expect to hop on and ride along?? I imagine lot of them fiberglass ones was busted up when the field hands would go to hop on them between hay bails. Then when they finaly go to steel, they forget to put them on. What were they thinking?????

I see you must be correct. I spoke with my friend and the vehicle has the Fiberglass running boards. The car is similar to Peter H's car at the concourse Italiano from what I was told. It has the rear wing and fiberglass runningboards. Still a great looking car IMHO and I will still persue this vehicle.

Since this car is a GT5 only, is the sticker price of $50,000.00 USD approximately correct?

As well, I will buy those books. I remember going through this process (familiarizing myself with the Marque)when I bought my 1985 Euro 930 "Sonderwunsch" Special Wishes car a few years back. This was just by chance. I planned on lurking and asking Q's while I searched for a vehicle that met my constraints, which went out the window locating a vehicle so quickly.

Once I have the Vehicle Number, I will certainly let all of you know what I am looking at.

Thanks again for all of the help and insight. It is greatly apprecaited.

Regards,
Paul

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I see you must be correct. I spoke with my friend and the vehicle has the Fiberglass running boards. The car is similar to Peter H's car at the concourse Italiano from what I was told. It has the rear wing and fiberglass runningboards. Still a great looking car IMHO and I will still persue this vehicle.

Since this car is a GT5 only, is the sticker price of $50,000.00 USD approximately correct?

As well, I will buy those books. I remember going through this process (familiarizing myself with the Marque)when I bought my 1985 Euro 930 "Sonderwunsch" Special Wishes car a few years back. This was just by chance. I planned on lurking and asking Q's while I searched for a vehicle that met my constraints, which went out the window locating a vehicle so quickly.

Once I have the Vehicle Number, I will certainly let all of you know what I am looking at.

Thanks again for all of the help and insight. It is greatly apprecaited.

Regards,
Paul

Anyone know the Value of of a 1982 Model Year GT5?

Read my post on this page:

http://pantera.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6250045562/m/3000013974/p/1

Keep in mind my comments are relative to US cars. Pricing in Europe may reflect other market conditions.

cowboy from hell

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The last GT5-S sold was Terrys red/tan, twin turbo, EFI. If my memory serves me it turned hands for $85K.

I saw Terry's ad on PI. I believe asking was $80k..and final price was ??

This car is probably the nicest GT5S around. A beautiful car with thousands of dollars invested in the engine, body and interior.

JK:

I agree, Terrys car probably one of the best GT5-S cars around. Has any one else seen any GT5-S cars for sale recently in the US market???

wayne

I saw Terry's ad on PI. I believe asking was $80k..and final price was ??

This car is probably the nicest GT5S around. A beautiful car with thousands of dollars invested in the engine, body and interior.[/QUOTE]

He sold it?