Seeking advice regarding the weatherstripping for the Mangusta engine compartment

From this last picture, sounds like the amended list should be:



1- the body from drivers to passenger side around fire wall is as pictured in the diagram (and pics of 1046) - both rubber seal and aluminum trim together

2- the first 8 inches or so on the lower body from the front to the latching plate and then another short section from the rear of the latching plate to wheel well is just aluminum trim and no rubber seal

3- the lower body from over the arches to the rear is rubber seal with no aluminum trim

4- the side edges of the gullwing engine covers have only rubber seal except for arch sections which have nothing.

The arches have the seal on the inner fenders, Did not see any diagrams with seals elsewhere other than the bulkhead. Nothing at all on the wings.

OK, here's what I have on 878. Please do not take it as gospel....anytime that I do that....I'm wrong.....!

I have no "sponge" bulb type (hollow circle over flat mounting surface... that Nate shows on his flip up front engine cover edge) on my front horizontal body area to seal against the hatches at the gas tank or storage area, or either area at the rear near battery and jack storage.

I DO have 3/8" to 1/2" "hollow sponge" seals on the hatches on the front horizontal areas only where they come up against the body. None on the rear hatch areas.....

I have no seal across the tail lamp panel area, on the body or the hatches.

I do have a "hollow bulb sponge" seal across the "up and over" hatch to body sealing area above/around the rear cabin glass area. This is a larger version of the small pieces that are used in the front lower hatch edges.

I do have the plastic chrome-ish door edge guard in two pieces at the side horizontal hatch ares, and up and over the cabin rear window area as someone else illustrated above.

If you get a JC Whitney catalog and look on page 77 *roughly! in the Weatherstripping section Exterior Car, or look at it online, you will see a small section for "Replacement Sponge Rubber Weatherstripping....Stick On Installation." Item #2 is a bulb style listed as dimension A=11/16" (Width I believe) and dimension B=5/8" (Height I think)

If you check out item #3, a laying down D sort of shape, I have a mark next to this, but no note telling me what for..... I'm thinking that this could either be the seal for the engine hinged front cover or could be used for the up and over seal as an alternative. What bothers me is dim A=3/8" and dim B=5/8"...that doesn't seem right. I just looked at some of this that another local Gooser gave me, left over from his car...and it seems more like 3/4" to 7/8" wide by 5/8" tall. Again, lying down D sponge bulb style. Adhesive on flat side.....

There is also some PUSH ON TRIM WEATHERSTRIP that looks like it would work for the bulb seal at the hood to the radiator cover cross piece. Check out item #5. "Full top edge bulb" has A=11/16" and B=5/8" This seems tooo big... Good thing they mail out samples if you ask!

There is also a mark in my book next to #9 which is a "Side edge bulb (large)" with A=3/4" and B=3/4". This has the "clip" (metal reinforced- listed at 9/16" high by 1/2" wide...may be on the large side???) section on the side of the bulb, (where #5 has the clip on the bottom) and looks like it could be used for door opening seals, where the seal clips onto the body and then the door compresses the bulb against the metal clip area...

Check out the pictures and you will see what I mean. I hope.

JC Whitney is probably not the only game in town for this stuff....just what I was told and what I found.....

I would guess that if you came across an old Fiat or Alfa dealer, that they could have some of these bits in the original style!

Steve

OK, having reviewed a few hundred ways to pimp out a ride, I realize this crome strip is very easy to get. Ebay has lots, JC Whitney, etc.
It looks like the tough part is the seal that goes around the wheel arches. Re-originals does not appear to have a match, nor Metro or Steel rubber products.

I did try and find the same product. The closest I found (door edge guard trim) was still smaller in diameter.

Every Mangusta I have seen has this small trim is gold not chrome. I have never had to reproduce it yet but if I did I think the best way would be to fold some ally strips on a press brake (not a folder) and then have it anodised gold. You would then clear coat it to dull it down a little and it would look just right.

Johnny

I would have to agree with Johnny as every original Goose I have seen, is indeed gold or perhaps yellow zinc. The colour on the cars I have seen is solid and I am sure original. That said it always was an unusual finish to have in that position in the cars!

The plastic chrome from around the roll bar flange was NOT gold. They plastic covering of the chrome mylar probably changed color with age.

It was clipped over the flange and pop riveted on the ends with a very small pop rivet to keep it in place.

Dick Ruzzin

Thanks Dick, as they say you learn something new everyday! Obviously impossible to stop the strip from deteriorating and turning yellow, as I have seen no chrome strips. Indeed the small pop rivet to hold the ends is a nice detail.

Dick, I didn't think of that. You remember these cars when they where new! Chrome or aluminium finish will be easier than gold.

The rivets have been present on each car I have seen.

Johnny

Think of it,
do you see GOLD anywhere else on the Mangusta?

Dick Ruzzin.

Either color, strikes me as an odd detail, but the silver should at least be the best looking. Greatly appreciate if somebody could provide good height & width measurements for this trim....honestly it looks larger every time I scan the photos now).

I do not think the trim is odd when you consider the details of the whole car. There is bright trim around the car inside and out so a little around that roll structure is a natural. As I recall it was not a conventional chrome door edge guard, materials and construction were the same
but it was longer.

I think you will find it at mylar trim suppliers as they make many snap on and glue on extruded plastic trim pieces.

DICK RUZZIN

<<OK, having reviewed a few hundred ways to pimp out a ride, I realize this crome strip is very easy to get. Ebay has lots, JC Whitney, etc.
It looks like the tough part is the seal that goes around the wheel arches. Re-originals does not appear to have a match, nor Metro or Steel rubber products>>

I have been hunting for small pieces of the edge guard- the ones at auto parts stores and ebay do not have enough height to them. Maybe the woolies is right?

I am getting confused re-reading all these posts- seems that some say the lift up gullwings have rubber weatherstripping on their horizontal edges, others say no...?

Is the consensus, that the lift up gullwings have weatherstripping except the wheel arch areas?

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Originally posted by LeeA:
more detail of the attachment of the arch weatherstripping, this is viewed on the passenger's side near by the gas tank

This "double hump" wheel arch weatherstripping is (I think) all I still need- anyone found a source for it?

I talked to a guy that pimps out motorcycles and he told me to use a blow dryer to heat the plastic "chrome" strip where you're going to do a tight bend and it will be smoother.

sounds like it would help.