Wow for sure. There ae some sick cats here. OMG. And the wheels have so much to do with it! Love Ron's Halibrands (aren't they on your GT40 too?) and cybomans crazy 18s, and just about every other set I see here. Some amazing choices.
Silly person that I am, I JUST discovered this thread. My eyeballs hurt from boinging in and out so much. Great stuff.
As you may recall, I'm a psycho for originality (looks-wise) but I must say, some great stuff here. The Aussie GR4 with the massive Goose style wheels took my breath away.
I only have the Campy 8s and 10s, downright pedestrian in this group, but what can I say?
As you may recall, I'm a psycho for originality (looks-wise) but I must say, some great stuff here. The Aussie GR4 with the massive Goose style wheels took my breath away.
I only have the Campy 8s and 10s, downright pedestrian in this group, but what can I say?
Not nice wheels, I agree on that, but few or noone else I have seen (on a Pantera) looks as racy as these ones. So if you want to go for the race-track/sports-racer look this is a good one!
Easy Larry, easy......
Now just think about this -- you're at Riverside in the seventies and people are going down the quarter mile and this guy pulls up to the tree with this car -- while everyone else has GTOs, Chevelles, Mustangs -- you see where I am going with this. So in that light -- the Goodyear Eagles may not be right for the street, but damn, on the quarter mile track is where it is at.
Mark
Now just think about this -- you're at Riverside in the seventies and people are going down the quarter mile and this guy pulls up to the tree with this car -- while everyone else has GTOs, Chevelles, Mustangs -- you see where I am going with this. So in that light -- the Goodyear Eagles may not be right for the street, but damn, on the quarter mile track is where it is at.
Mark
I have never seen a set of rims for a Pantera I actually like other then the 15" Camp's and the Gr4 racing wheels. To me the larger rim has never looked right on the car. The way rims are built today just don't give the depth old cast wheels did and many of the shiny wheels today look like MR T's jewelry and I simply can't get my head around them. They make me think of "Autozone".
I would love to see a 15-16" cast wheel with some of the original depth campy or not.
I would love to see a 15-16" cast wheel with some of the original depth campy or not.
I absolutely love the 10" Campagnolo, especially on the silver and black cars!:
A few years back, I came across a website. It was called the Panteraplace, and there it was a car that in every way looked so right, and it had the "original" wheels in what I think is the perfect size (front and rear) to the car, and gave just the right amount of modern flare to the car to bring it up to date. That car is the reason I again (after a few years only looking towards Lambos) started to look into Panteras, and OPS, I bought me one last year.....
I have a question about back spacing
The car is a 71 Narrow body with mostly stock suspension
I would like to go with a 18 inch wheel front and back, fronts something like a 225/35ZR18 with a 8 inch wide rim, rear 275/40ZR18 with a 9 inch wide rim
I am concerned that the fronts will have tire rub and the rears I would like a deep dish rim that pushes the tire to the wheel lip.
Can anyone suggest proper back spacing for the rims?
The car is a 71 Narrow body with mostly stock suspension
I would like to go with a 18 inch wheel front and back, fronts something like a 225/35ZR18 with a 8 inch wide rim, rear 275/40ZR18 with a 9 inch wide rim
I am concerned that the fronts will have tire rub and the rears I would like a deep dish rim that pushes the tire to the wheel lip.
Can anyone suggest proper back spacing for the rims?
Welcome here Q-K. There are lots of various wheel options and threads here. If you search "wheel offset" using the forum search, you will find a wealth of information that will likely impact your decision. The best approach might be to find the car that looks exactly how you want yours to appear and ask that owner for his wheel details. Personal preference plays a huge amount, as of course does proper fit. Too wide will cause issues on the fronts (not so much an issue on the rears), but what you propose should be fine. The rears you plan may be on the narrow side considering many of us are running anything from 295 up to 335 widths (I have 295/50/15 on 10" wide Campys plus a set of 335/35/17 on 11" wide repro wheels and both fit the rear perfectly, especially when the stock spacers are removed from the springs.
Please start a thread with some details and photos of your car. It looks pretty nice from the avatar.
Mark
Please start a thread with some details and photos of your car. It looks pretty nice from the avatar.
Mark
Mark, Thank you for the welcome and the lead to the information on back spacing.
I found a couple threads that I will be reading through to figure out what will fit best.
Also just learning about removing the shock spacer. Seems like a nice option for dropping the car a bit.
I found a couple threads that I will be reading through to figure out what will fit best.
Also just learning about removing the shock spacer. Seems like a nice option for dropping the car a bit.
I'll put some new rims on before posting pics, maybe in a week or two.
Also have #4499 which is getting "the works" and a 74 XKE Roadster about half way through a resto
Also have #4499 which is getting "the works" and a 74 XKE Roadster about half way through a resto
On max-width front wheels & tires on unflaired '71-'75 Panteras:
First, some (maybe most) Panteras are slightly asymmetric: the front suspension construction may cause a right side wheel to protrude as much as an inch outside the fender, while the same wheel will be slightly INSIDE the left fender. This is also influenced by what shocks and springs the car has, whether the OEM DOT headlight-height spacers are in place or have been removed, whether the car normally carries a passenger and/or 100 lbs of cargo -e.g- the ride height has been altered, plus your driving habits: do you make sharp turns at moderate speeds as in autocross, or are you more of an around-town driver?
If you routinely use the car's top end capabilties (150-170 mph), it's recommended to add roughly twice the max-possible caster in the front suspension for stability. This pulls both tire tops backward as much as 1/2", which changes all the above contact points- some for the better, some worse.
So do not buy any wheel unless you get return privileges if it doesn't fit your particular Pantera and you're not willing to make a little clearance in a number of areas. Normally, mounting a tire voids the return possibilities of any wheel, even if the car never rolls a ft, on it.
Second- in tight turns, expect to slightly modify any Pantera in which you add max-width front tires. With 10-1/2" wide tread tires (245-50x XX), in tight turns, the main contact points are:
*the center 14" of both fender's outside lips need rolling under, per factory recommendations in '74
*the front inner fender panels near the bottom of the panel, by the radiator base
*the cowl drainpipes
*the center rear of the inner fender near the brake hose mounts
*the right side windshield-wiper shield
All the above can be done simply, at home, with ball-peen hammers, sections of pipe to pound on for nice neat cavities, and some marking materials. Also, after doing this, the brake hoses may need re-angling to miss rubbing on wider tire walls. Some Panteras have had a few, or all the above mods. But substantially changing wheel alignments or tire brands/sizes may mean another round of tire rubbing and changes. Of course, one can always go for a little less than max-width front tires....
First, some (maybe most) Panteras are slightly asymmetric: the front suspension construction may cause a right side wheel to protrude as much as an inch outside the fender, while the same wheel will be slightly INSIDE the left fender. This is also influenced by what shocks and springs the car has, whether the OEM DOT headlight-height spacers are in place or have been removed, whether the car normally carries a passenger and/or 100 lbs of cargo -e.g- the ride height has been altered, plus your driving habits: do you make sharp turns at moderate speeds as in autocross, or are you more of an around-town driver?
If you routinely use the car's top end capabilties (150-170 mph), it's recommended to add roughly twice the max-possible caster in the front suspension for stability. This pulls both tire tops backward as much as 1/2", which changes all the above contact points- some for the better, some worse.
So do not buy any wheel unless you get return privileges if it doesn't fit your particular Pantera and you're not willing to make a little clearance in a number of areas. Normally, mounting a tire voids the return possibilities of any wheel, even if the car never rolls a ft, on it.
Second- in tight turns, expect to slightly modify any Pantera in which you add max-width front tires. With 10-1/2" wide tread tires (245-50x XX), in tight turns, the main contact points are:
*the center 14" of both fender's outside lips need rolling under, per factory recommendations in '74
*the front inner fender panels near the bottom of the panel, by the radiator base
*the cowl drainpipes
*the center rear of the inner fender near the brake hose mounts
*the right side windshield-wiper shield
All the above can be done simply, at home, with ball-peen hammers, sections of pipe to pound on for nice neat cavities, and some marking materials. Also, after doing this, the brake hoses may need re-angling to miss rubbing on wider tire walls. Some Panteras have had a few, or all the above mods. But substantially changing wheel alignments or tire brands/sizes may mean another round of tire rubbing and changes. Of course, one can always go for a little less than max-width front tires....
does anyone know what these are?
http://p400sv.at.infoseek.co.jp/GT4.03-03.jpg
I like how they fill the wheel arches without the wagon wheel look.
http://p400sv.at.infoseek.co.jp/GT4.03-03.jpg
I like how they fill the wheel arches without the wagon wheel look.
My version of a modern group 4 wheel. 18x12 rears with 335 tire. 17x8 front.
Mine,
From Pantera East. Fronts 11" and rears 13". Front backspacing is incorrect by 1 1/4" requiring spacers. Car would be much better to drive if it had a 9" front wheel with the correct back spacing.
From Pantera East. Fronts 11" and rears 13". Front backspacing is incorrect by 1 1/4" requiring spacers. Car would be much better to drive if it had a 9" front wheel with the correct back spacing.
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