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Pantera #1447 - the search is over, the waiting begins

57545754If you're not kickin' up dust, you're collectin' it!
Michel,
This is indeed a sad day, so many of us were following the restoration work with great anticipation for how the car would turn out. Frowner
It's disappointing to see all of the work on this one come to an end, so, unless there is someone out there who wants to buy everything and make the effort to restore it, parting it out seems like the best option.
If there's a silver lining, I've noticed that lately there seem to have been a number of very good looking cars show up at excellent prices, but you need to move fast as the best deals seem to go very quickly. And as you've seen, there's always someone on this forum willing to go out and help with an inspection.
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V Vereeken (Guest)
Yes a total bummer. Never had that and I have been around older cars for quite some time...these things happen I guess. Anyway; my Pantera dream is slowed down but not burried. I think 1447 can mean a lot to other Pantera owners.

And call me crazy but I want Coz to start on a new project. I want to see the car butt naked before going further. Unless ofcourse the right Pantera with absolute stunning pedigree and a Kazillion restoration photo's from last month happens to trot over my left foot....at the right price.

Michel
deniscdeniscCaretaker of 8MA1244 '70 Euro Mangusta DRIVE THEM, THEY WERE MEANT TO BE DRIVEN, IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT ONE, BUY A POSTER!
Michel, I think you are looking for 'La perle rare' (rare pearl - sound better in french) I know in theory the sum of the parts is more than the whole, but at the point you are now what is the additional % cost of repairing the rear part of the frame? Resto coast always exceed the original estimate. Seem to me a shame especially for an early car.

Denis
timsterentimsterenMember
Hi Michel,
that is an enormous dissapointment, I am really gutted on your behalf. I think a number of us were looking at cars at the same time you bought that one and as was mentioned earler have been following this restoration with great interest. I just managed to pick up my dream car a couple of weeks ago and am hoping I don't find anything like what you have discovered. I hope you find something fantastic to replace this one.
Cheers, Tim.
lf-tp2511lf-tp2511Member

This seems an appropriate time to again state what is obvious to most of us when looking at a Pantera for purchase:

DO A VERY COMPLETE, TIME CONSUMING INSPECTION - INSPECTION - INSPECTION

If you purchase a Pantera without getting it up on a lift and then spending at least fifteen minutes with a hammer and a center punch you are asking for trouble.

Yes, a hammer and a center punch. You are not going to tap around on a Pantera chassis with your pencil or your knuckles and find anything, especially if the seller is fraudulent and has tried to cover known defects. Bondo, paint and undercoating from Kragens can cover almost anything. But if you HIT THE BEJEZZUS out of frame sections, you'll find such camouflage.

On the other hand, the small impact point from a punch or awl will not leave any damage of any importance. Should the seller get bent out of shape, politely explain the real world - perhaps this example - and tell him YOU are not willing to repeat such a scenario.

Eastwood sells an overpriced magnet device that will give you some sort of an idea of paint/bondo thickness on painted areas:

http://www.eastwoodco.com/jump...799&itemType=PRODUCT

Another type of this magnet unit is the Spot Rot. I couldn't find a current selling listing for this - I bought one back in 2001 - but here is info:

Larry

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dougmdougmMember
I think this scenario has terrified a good number of us. When the time comes to strip off the paint, what you thought was underneath is not there. On very rare occasions the seller is passing on a condition they knew nothing about, but the vast majority of times they know exactly what they are doing. I think people that do this should be criminally prosecuted! It puts a big black mark on the entire collector car hobby. Like everybody has said, keep your chin up. The "perfect" car for you is still out there.
Doug M
C comp2Member

What does dead mean? I see some badly rusted areas, but I have not seen a part on this car which could not be fabricated.

The issue is how much has to be fabricated, weather you are going to do the fabrication yourself, or have some one else do it, how much time and money you have. This is not to say this is the best choice but it also means not all is lost if you can or wish to tackle it.

I only saw the one photo but the frame and the uprights them self are not to hard to repair. The issue I am guessing is most of the car is this way.

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Originally posted by four walling:
nice work comp 2,

Your example of the fabrication possible should give everyone hope that nothing can be "pronounced dead" forever.


I know it's not everyone's cut of tee but I look around at the car and each individual piece looks like something we could all fabricate if we needed to. My problem with my car is some have done a poor job of repair and I am repairing repair jobs.
V Vereeken (Guest)

I am posting a number of after and before pictures for your enjoyment. We knew about the rust in front at radiator mount and suspected rust out back between headlights after inspection. We discounted that in our price.
Teh problem is in the inside wheel liners where it seems rust started between the inner and outer pannel.
Again, every else on this car is straight.
And yes I will take legal action against the seller for misrepresentation. Give him a sleepless night or two.

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