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Don't believe everything you read on the internet!
This is one of those "read between the lines" things!
So much wrong with this car that I don't have the time to mess with it at the moment....
But here's my $.03 (inflation!)
IT IS a great car!!! That said....
Wrong air cleaner...not even close.
They replaced the brake hoses.....what they don't bother to mention, because they probably never got close to them....was did they check the caliper pistons for corrosion? (My car sat for only 13 years and the pistons were a mess!!! This car has sat a lot longer...)
Brake cylinder? Master/slave clutch cylinders??? These were all aluminum.....again, my car sat for 13 years and the bores and pistons were "fuzzed" together....not fused..... fuzz everywhere on the material.....
Rubber booties for the sperical rod end joints been replaced? Bet not!
Rust on the trans ring gear/mainshaft gears from sitting immobile for years???
Tool kit? Jack?
This car needs another $20-30K worth of Johnny Woods' time to dial in this car to be really really nice! The body looks good! The interior (THE SEAT!!!!) looks like sh*t..... They wrote:"especially on the black leather buckets that feel nearly new"... The driver seat looks nearly usable, barely functional!
I wonder if people pay these guys to make this stuff up! "Having access to one of the 401 DeTomaso Mangustas makes you rare Italian royalty, but the opportunity at a true survivor barn find can crown you the king amongst kings." I'll be sure to put that in my passport....I'm an Italian king now! What will the wife think? She always thought I was German....perhaps some new business cards...!
These guys are bums, just under auction houses.....they wouldn't know a great Mangusta or Pantera if it bit them.
They wrote in typical BS style: "and the grip of new BF Goodrich tires"! That's white letter TA radials...one notch down from sedan style (black) touring tires.....look at the spec's....it's true!
Their price is a "fishing" price. My guess would be that this car sells in the low 300's or high 200's privately.....and it will pop up again "more finished"....and then it will bring some good money.
In the mean time, I'd be leery of driving the car around the block......
I know what has been done to my car, and I just drove it 1200 miles last week......and made it home just fine.
Ciao!
Steve
This is one of those "read between the lines" things!
So much wrong with this car that I don't have the time to mess with it at the moment....
But here's my $.03 (inflation!)
IT IS a great car!!! That said....
Wrong air cleaner...not even close.
They replaced the brake hoses.....what they don't bother to mention, because they probably never got close to them....was did they check the caliper pistons for corrosion? (My car sat for only 13 years and the pistons were a mess!!! This car has sat a lot longer...)
Brake cylinder? Master/slave clutch cylinders??? These were all aluminum.....again, my car sat for 13 years and the bores and pistons were "fuzzed" together....not fused..... fuzz everywhere on the material.....
Rubber booties for the sperical rod end joints been replaced? Bet not!
Rust on the trans ring gear/mainshaft gears from sitting immobile for years???
Tool kit? Jack?
This car needs another $20-30K worth of Johnny Woods' time to dial in this car to be really really nice! The body looks good! The interior (THE SEAT!!!!) looks like sh*t..... They wrote:"especially on the black leather buckets that feel nearly new"... The driver seat looks nearly usable, barely functional!
I wonder if people pay these guys to make this stuff up! "Having access to one of the 401 DeTomaso Mangustas makes you rare Italian royalty, but the opportunity at a true survivor barn find can crown you the king amongst kings." I'll be sure to put that in my passport....I'm an Italian king now! What will the wife think? She always thought I was German....perhaps some new business cards...!
These guys are bums, just under auction houses.....they wouldn't know a great Mangusta or Pantera if it bit them.
They wrote in typical BS style: "and the grip of new BF Goodrich tires"! That's white letter TA radials...one notch down from sedan style (black) touring tires.....look at the spec's....it's true!
Their price is a "fishing" price. My guess would be that this car sells in the low 300's or high 200's privately.....and it will pop up again "more finished"....and then it will bring some good money.
In the mean time, I'd be leery of driving the car around the block......
I know what has been done to my car, and I just drove it 1200 miles last week......and made it home just fine.
Ciao!
Steve
Steve;
Great points. I was in Italy and in Santiago's shop was a mangusta that someone had brought him. It was just a shell, but in talking he mentioned that new calipers would be about 4K and to make up a "new" air cleaner would be about 3K, so it needs a lot to make it original...
Great points. I was in Italy and in Santiago's shop was a mangusta that someone had brought him. It was just a shell, but in talking he mentioned that new calipers would be about 4K and to make up a "new" air cleaner would be about 3K, so it needs a lot to make it original...
Only 8k miles and the drivers seat has the wear of 108k miles. That's the true miles for this car. The speedo has been around the clock and I recon it has for most survivors on the road.
deniscCaretaker of 8MA1244 '70 Euro Mangusta DRIVE THEM, THEY WERE MEANT TO BE DRIVEN, IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT ONE, BUY A POSTER!
quote:Originally posted by PanteraWanabe:
Only 8k miles and the drivers seat has the wear of 108k miles. That's the true miles for this car. The speedo has been around the clock and I recon it has for most survivors on the road.
I wouldn't push it that far. Maybe more like someone took the car appart and left components on the seat for 14 years and the foam collapsed.
As Steve said put it in as a good base for a good mechanical restoration then let's see up close what the body is like. Put in the same category as the blue Auctions America car sold in from Aug14
FYI. Apparently this car has been sold. ( an agreement in place)
I do not know the price, but as Mangusta Guys" it is now up to us to help the guy rebuild his new car and not nitpick it.
PS its not me. I got my own handfuls of Mangusta bits
I do not know the price, but as Mangusta Guys" it is now up to us to help the guy rebuild his new car and not nitpick it.
PS its not me. I got my own handfuls of Mangusta bits
Hey JMM!
Your handful of bits should be hittin' the asphalt pretty soon eh??????????
...or at least making noise???
Cars n coffee in Roseville(?) anytime soon?
Steve
Your handful of bits should be hittin' the asphalt pretty soon eh??????????
...or at least making noise???
Cars n coffee in Roseville(?) anytime soon?
Steve
quote:Originally posted by Denis C:quote:Originally posted by PanteraWanabe:
Only 8k miles and the drivers seat has the wear of 108k miles. That's the true miles for this car. The speedo has been around the clock and I recon it has for most survivors on the road.
I wouldn't push it that far. Maybe more like someone took the car appart and left components on the seat for 14 years and the foam collapsed.
As Steve said put it in as a good base for a good mechanical restoration then let's see up close what the body is like. Put in the same category as the blue Auctions America car sold in from Aug14
108K miles is not a lot. And why not that much? A 302 windsor has at least 200K miles in it. The paint if looked after can handle it with touch ups here and there. I just sold a car with just under 100K and it was in better condition that this car and it was treated none too nicely. The seat wear I am referring to is more so the side bolsters on the back of the seats not the base.
I am not trying to be antagonistic or slag off the car, it just annoys me the claims these sellers make with nothing to back it up. The average person puts 15-25K mile per year on a daily driver. Maybe 2-10K on an exotic. Not unreasonable to think it has done this many miles.
What I have found with my limited experience is that most cars get driven until they stop. If it is cheap enough they will fix it and get it running again until the next time it stops. When the bill to get it running again exceeds the value of the car that is where it stays. Around the 80's is when this happens. This is certainly the case with the few older cars I own.